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⌈ Secret Post #4856 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I respect that-- like, there's enough of that in real life, and I don't necessarily want to deal with homophobia during my leisure time-- seeing it on screen has given me full physical panic before, as if it was happening to me in real time rather than a fictional character, I totally get not finding THAT fun! But I also don't like period fics where there's full and open acceptance that the characters don't get in canon (if there are canon gay characters), because I don't like having that struggle fully erased, in a way that feels like a disservice...

If the canon doesn't include homophobia as part of the world, if it's a little bit fantasy or even a heavily idealized version of the past, I like a lack of homophobia! Like, let Jeeves and Wooster have more angst about class difference than being two men! Refreshing and good! Let Maurice live happily ever after with Alec and not be bothered by anyone ever again! He's already DEALT with the problems of (someone else's) internalized homophobia and he COULD live in an ideal world! Whereas if I was reading a fic about Thomas from Downton Abbey or Miles from Bright Young Things, and they just never had to deal with homophobia, it would feel kind of hollow and false-- they have had struggles because of their sexuality. I want to see them WIN, but I don't think I'd be able to enjoy it if it was a matter of their never having had those struggles and won happiness anyway.

One of my historical fandoms includes characters who deal with HEAVY homophobia and I don't want the fic to ignore that completely-- it's significant, in their relationship, that they consider each other worth a LOT of risk. But I DO want to see that even if the greater world around them is homophobic, the people around them are ready to love and accept them wholeheartedly, even if it's 'unrealistic' for a whole cast of characters to do so. Characters I'm supposed to see as good SHOULD be on the right side of history and it's not as unrealistic as some people like to say to think that a wide variety of people could understand that gay people are human beings deserving of love and respect and safety-- even without knowing that someone they love/respect already IS gay!

If a historical fic is set in a time and place where the world is especially homophobic (and most of my serious fandoms are either turn of the century or the 1980s, so...), show me hope and happiness anyway, show me supportive and protective friends/families/friends-who-become-tight-knit-families, show me carefree moments where whatever homophobia exists in the outside world CANNOT touch the characters, where it's not ever-present.

I need stories without homophobia when I'm sick to death of the world I live in and need an escape... but I need stories about defeating homophobia, too, because if a character I love and identify with can live in a homophobic world and carve out a good and happy life, so can I.

[(Anonymous)]

+1000

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[(Anonymous)]

Very well put! I completely agree. I personally like to see internalized/period-typical themes in fiction because it adds a sense of being able to rise above and defeat it in whatever way they can. The part you where mentioned them taking and accepting the risk of being together is an amazing point, something I value a lot even if it can be difficult to read.
I wish you the best, and hope you find your happily ever after! <33

AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks! Like... for me it's definitely a case of 'am I in the mindset for this type of story', so I understand people who are NEVER in the mindset for it, but I also totally get why some people really NEED it.

And same to you-- honestly, hope we all find our happily ever afters!
<3<3<3

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

I hear you!
<33

[(Anonymous)]

This post is good and you should feel good :). Well said.

[(Anonymous)]

You have put this absolutely perfectly, thank you!

[(Anonymous)]

Well said!