[ SECRET POST #4858 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4858 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Hannah Rutherford]

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06. [SPOILERS for Star Trek: Picard]



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07. [SPOILERS for AI: The Somnium Files]




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08. [SPOILERS for What We Do In The Shadows, Season 2, Episode 2]



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09. [WARNING for transphobia]




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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #694.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, they're doing the Buffy idea? That the vampire is a demon with the memories of the person that was murdered, and the actual soul of the deceased is a separate thing?

It's not a new idea for undead, that they're only echoes of the deceased (ghosts) or their corpse being piloted by eldritch beings/forces (vampires, revenants, skeletons). Sometimes it works better than others. I haven't seen this one, but I will say it did bug the hell out of me in Buffy.

[(Anonymous)]

I liked it in Buffy but I literally came to the comments to see if anyone was going to bring up that this happened twenty years ago in Buffy

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[(Anonymous)]

Were there vampire ghosts in Buffy? Honesty I don't remember, so I am genuinely asking.

It took me to the ayrt comment to remember that soulless vampires existed as a thing that basically separated the 'good' vampires from 'evil'. In What We Do In The Shadows, there isn't this sort of moral conflict, they'll essentially act as an experienced souled (idk? vampire with a soul) vampire by Buffy's standards.

I think I mostly just used the wrong wording, but the only alternative to 'soul' is 'spirit' that I can think of. Basically what bothered me so much was that as far as canon pokes hints at (since they do reference olden mythology about vampires for a a half a second) vampires in this world wouldn't have ghosts since they retain everything that made them who they were when they were human.
There has been people turned in the show before. The process is basically (and I mentioned this above) being infected by a parasite of sorts (by ingesting the vampires blood) which ends up shifting the body in a fairly gruesome/magically manner unto that of which a vampire can survive. (at least this is my take, since I don't believe they go into the exact details as to why in the show) The transformation results to death of the infected but almost simultaneously a rebirth into a new fledgling vampire.

[(Anonymous)]

I wouldn't quite call it the Buffy idea. These ghosts (that the vampires actually talked to!) seemed much like their vampire counterparts. There was no moral judgment in the text about a soul or ghost making you not 'good.'

(Though obviously the vampires kill people all the time, so they're not good by most standards.)

IDK, Buffy made it a big thing, but this show is hardly constructing its worldbuilding around it.

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[(Anonymous)]

Yes! Very good point! I should have thought of a different word to describe what I was trying to say, I'm only now coming up with 'spirit' but I'm not sure if that's exactly right either unfortunately...

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[(Anonymous)]

It took me a minute to remember how Buffy used a soul in reference to a vampire, but in that context I may have just worded my secret a little poorly. Like the episode was about summoning a persons spirit for whatever reason, and the main group of vampires thought it would be a laugh to ouija their own ghosts just for fun. As far as the series depicts, vampirism is more of a curse than a possession. They have all the same quirks and attitudes that they had when they were alive, the only difference it that they have physical vampiric traits. Technically, Collin (the only one who didn't summon a ghost) existing as a 'day walker' and as an emotional vampire sort of gives me the impression that, if anything, vampirism is more of an infection/disease than a demon existing in the hosts body.

I guess I should have used spirit instead of soul, since arguably being turned might technically corrupt the soul as the body dies.
Like I know I am way too overthinking this, but part of the show pokes fun at existing mythology surrounding vampires so it really just threw me off I guess.
(if any of this makes sense that is...)