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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-04-25 05:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #4859 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4859 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I have genuinely started liking ships and characters because they were hated on. Is that what you mean by spite shipping?

If people are always talking about how much they hate a ship or character, it takes on a perverse and transgressive appeal for me.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with OP - this absolutely makes no sense to me. Either I like the dynamics of the ship or I don't, other people's opinions don't change what the dynamic of the relationship fundamentally is

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm somewhere between you and OP, I think. I do have to have SOME fondness for the ship and its characters to actually create or even consume content... however, I'm certainly sometimes motivated by seeing people hate things I like-- I wrote one of my OTPs a little harder after someone else in the fandom said one half of the ship was too boring and that the other half deserved someone better. I didn't fight with my fellow fan-- we agree on a LOT of things in and out of that fandom. But it made me want to work harder to use my work to 'defend the honor' of that character and ship.

(when it comes to top/bottom discourse within a ship I'm already invested in, though... BOY I've discovered I can be VERY spite-motivated there. In more than one fandom I've gone from 'they switch'/'who even CARES about this?' to solely writing the more vocally hated-on version)

(Anonymous) 2020-04-26 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
+1, me too. I won't start shipping something I genuinely dislike or am bored by, but seeing other people hate on a ship I mildly enjoy is a surefire way to make me like it more and write fic about it. Very motivating!

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm with OP in finding it boggling. i literally can't like something just because it's getting hated on, even if it's unfairly. i either like a dynamic or i don't, and other peoples opinions won't change that nor will it make me ship something i never had an interest in, or ruin a ship i like.