[ SECRET POST #4862 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #4862 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.



__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________



03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.


__________________________________________________



07.















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 24 secrets from Secret Submission Post #696.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I used to get w chuckle out of these jokes - much like the [sees picture of gay couple] “wow I’d never support my son in a relationship with a man... who dresses so poorly! - ones. But then someone pointed out to the me that the punchline is the expectation is one of bigotry and oppression. It’s a joke at the expense of real things that do happen, and it’s always felt like punching down to me since then.

[(Anonymous)]

I see the applied above don’t disagree with me - just the framing! I don’t like the expectation of bigotry as a joke. Yeah it’s ‘subverted’ by the punchline, but that’s kind of like threatening to punch someone and they catching your hand in front of their face and saying ‘haha, I didn’t punch you! Why are you upset?’

[(Anonymous)]

DA - yeah, that's exactly it!

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, adding a lesbian voice here and it's... Not great.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure that's accurate. A punch is still thrown. It's just that while you have your eyes shut in anticipation of the hit, the person goes around and punches you in the ass instead.

[(Anonymous)]

Saying something that turns out to be not-hateful is a punch in the ass... how?

[(Anonymous)]

What on earth

[(Anonymous)]

Well... no? I don't think that analogy works at all. The joke is that the initial set-up from Person A made Person B think that a bigoted statement is coming... but it never was. So in your analogy, that's like seeing someone throw a fist in your direction and flinching, only to find out that they actually meant to do something harmless.

Person B didn't block the punch or the bigotry because Person A never intended to punch person B or say something bigoted. And in the original scenario, Person A isn't laughing at Person B for their mistake... they're not even in on the joke because they're not necessarily aware of Person B's expectations.

[(Anonymous)]

DA But I still don't want to have to flinch, and there IS always a sense of "Haha, you THOUGHT I would!" with these jokes.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, it's fair that you don't want to flinch, but the "haha you THOUGHT I would" is entirely in your head. Yes, there's a joke that plays upon your expectations, but it's not Person A who's laughing at you.

[(Anonymous)]

You're welcome to your own interpretations.

[(Anonymous)]

I guess if you want to imagine that a fictional character is ridiculing you, then... you do you?

[(Anonymous)]

A real person writes the jokes, my dude.

[(Anonymous)]

I still have to flinch and brace myself. That's not funny, and I find the people who like this shit tend to not be the groups aimed at.

[(Anonymous)]

A joke that fails to land with some people is common. That doesn't mean that it's problematic.

[(Anonymous)]

Yepppp

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, I'm several of the groups prejudice is aimed at but it doesn't make me flinch or bother me when it's only happening in a story. Even if the comment was bigoted for real and not bait and switch, it's just a fictional character saying it. And usually they're meant to be an asshole and get their comeuppance.

[(Anonymous)]

This is how I feel about it. The joke in the original post isn't anything I'd get up and arms about, but it makes me uncomfortable.