[ SECRET POST #4881 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4881 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

06. https://i.imgur.com/Zqaoqwb.png

[morieris]

Same re: No TV Patience. Even if something is 6 or 10 episodes, I can't be bothered.

[(Anonymous)]

People keep reccing me Chinese dramas and I just... don't have any sort of patience of 1 hour long 50+ episodes a season. No way.

[(Anonymous)]

uuuuuuuuuuuuugh, THIS

I'm sure they're lovely, but oh my god I cannot hold it together for forty hours of court intrigue, I will die.

[(Anonymous)]

A+ image choice. I'm cackling.

[(Anonymous)]

I LOVE your image choice. And honestly, same. If it's heterosexual, I have zero patience for it at this point.

I mean, I live with three people and one TV, so when it's not my choice of viewing I'll watch whatever's on and hope for the best, but if I'm putting something on I expect it to be (or FEEL) gay or I won't invest my time. I see enough straight people as it is.

[venusundae]

i think that's fair. your time is valuable, might as well be particular about what you spend that time watching. especially since there are so many options of stuff to watch now. i almost get overwhelmed honestly.

[greghousesgf]

dammit, I want chocolate now.

[(Anonymous)]

A+ image choice, OP, that's amazing (I have nothing constructive to say about the contents of the secret itself, just some general agreement)

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

It took me a moment to get it.

[(Anonymous)]

Kinda same?

Whenever I see a considerable amount of people on my fandom circles raving about some new thing, I'll go looking for fic and see what ships and tropes are more prevalent. If I like what I see, I'll watch/read the thing so I can fully enjoy the fic.

If the kinds of fic that are popular for that fandom don't look interesting to me, I'll just move on and not bother even watching/reading the thing.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sort of similar in the sense that I am open to a variety of shows, but I refuse to waste my time on things where the non-straight characters/relationships are only implied or otherwise non-canon. I'm done with wink wink nudge nudge stuff. I don't want "slashable" pairings. I want fully realized and developed, unequivocal, on-screen relationships. Slow burn is (more than) fine. Non-explicit "PG" scenes are fine (as long as they are mostly equivalent to what straight couples in the same show get). But no thanks to queer-baiting scraps that require a magnifying glass and overactive imagination before any gayness can be seen.

[(Anonymous)]

Same!

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with you in terms of needing canon representation-- it's about damn time we had more of it, and I'm sick to death of when shows who DO have gay characters show far less of their relationship than they do of the straight couples-- if two characters are of equal importance in terms of general screentime/plot involvement, but the straight guy gets a whole courtship with on-screen relationship development and PG kisses, and the gay guy has a boyfriend but we don't get to see the same development, and their interactions are shot in much lower lighting, it's kind of clear we're not getting a fair shake. (I've been in two separate fandoms where canon m/m couples got shafted by the lighting department as much as by the writers just not knowing how to let gay people be happy)

That said, I DO want slashable pairings too. I don't need every ship to be canon! I want some of them to be, but just like I don't enjoy every canon romance in things I watch as it is, there's no guarantee I'd love the canon queer ships more than I'd love thinking about two best friends falling in love. It's not an either-or. Representation is vital, but fandom is supposed to be fun, and it's about having freedom from being wed to canon. I might wind up loving a canon gay ship but still also ship a couple other men (or a couple other women) just because they have good chemistry and I'm interested in those friends-turned-lovers ships whether or not canon goes that way.

I love the gay couple in one of my shows-- the amount of fic I've written compared to the screentime they've had so far is a testament to that. I wasn't just excited to get representation, but excited about those characters together because of the way they met and the chemistry they have, and how much trust they've built... but I still love shipping two guys who have only ever had female love interests in canon, because they've been through a lot together and love spending time together and have cute banter.

[(Anonymous)]

Fair enough. I have never been particularly interested in shipping non-canon couples (and I have an amazing track record of being able to predict which particular pairings will end up canon even if they don't start that way). For me, the fun is in building upon and exploring what I see, not making up stuff from things I ~want~ to see, if that makes sense. But I agree that representation is not enough. I don't ship a couple just because they're canon. I need more than that.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT and yeah, I can usually spot the Designated Endgame pretty early on. Sometimes it's good, but boy, I hate those times that I like a character and then the love interest is introduced and I KNOW, but I absolutely hate them... which for me is where non-canon shipping might come into play.

But for me also, like... I watch a lot of older media where I know I'm not going to get canon queer characters, and that changes how I feel about characters who are queercoded but not portrayed as openly gay/bi/etc, compared to how I feel when a current show or movie does the same thing. If I'm watching a movie from the 50s or a show from the 80s, I'm working from a different set of criteria, and if I'm watching something from the past decade, like... my standards are context specific.