[ SECRET POST #4887 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4887 ⌋

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Comments

[fizzyrose]

I think a lot of the problem is that there isn't as many canon LGBT characters/couples as there are cishet ones...so what little there are have to be very good to make up for it. But what people don't realize is that they aren't helping by being overcritical and holding such characters/couples to a higher standard than cishet ones. The point is that they're supposed to be treated as completely equal.

I also honestly suspect that most of the time it's people being performative because they're upset the canon LGBT couple isn't the ship they wanted to sail so they try and find ways of validating their discontent. But it comes across a lot worse in these situations than it does with cishet characters/couples because they're not as common.

YMMV on this one too because how many and how widespread LGBT themes are in media really depends on what you're into. I watch a lot of shounen/seinen/action type anime and like a lot of traditional fantasy so I see very little canon LGBT characters and couples at all...aside from fanfic. So I don't often have to run into this discourse all the time...people are usually arguing over whether there are any LGBT characters to begin with and ranting about subtext.

[(Anonymous)]

True, and it probably doesn't help that some of the more crazy hater aspects (*cough* Steven Universe) gets hyperboosted because it's so ridiculous.

[(Anonymous)]

Also just true of cartoon fandoms in general

Cartoon fandoms are always bad IMO

[fizzyrose]

I never got into SU. The most I know about it and the fanbase is that there's serious drama going on all the time and at least half the people watching it hate it and kept up with it solely to bitch and complain. And the alien rocks.

[(Anonymous)]

It's because most of us who love the show are gushing to other people who love the show and staying away from the crazy.

It's kind of an uneven show due to production delays. SU:Future is brilliant IMO.

[(Anonymous)]

The fandom is absolutely insane for a show that's actually very sweet and well-written.

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[(Anonymous)]

I think the performative aspect makes up a large bulk of it honestly, the fans either wanted different canon-gay, or the canon-gay they got just doesn't work for them, which is fine honestly, I'm gay and I don't like every canon-gay pair under the sun because it's not possible for them all to click for me.

But instead of reconsigning this I feel like fans take it too far and start acting like some canon-gay ship on some random show is The Devil and all kinds of ~problematic for X,Y,Z reasons that don't even exist... instead of just admitting they didn't vibe with it.

And I just have... so much more of an issue with people doing that than just not caring for the canon-gay and moving on.

Re: OP of comment secret

[fizzyrose]

Yes, this exactly.