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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-05-24 04:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #4888 ]


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(Anonymous) 2020-05-24 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
It doesn't make any sense to me how an abusive relationship could be called a soulmate situation. It's definitely not how I would ever use the term personally.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-24 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2020-05-24 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Memory by Linda Nagata. Your soulmate is someone you feel compelled to have sex with, even if you hate them. I did not like that book.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-25 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
Have you heard of Subaru/Seishirou from Tokyo Babylon/X? Hannibal/Will from Hannibal? Elektra/Matt from Daredevil? All arguable or confirmed soulmates who should under no circumstances be together but both love each other too much and can't love anyone else the same way.

In real life I completely agree with you that no one's abuser should ever be referred to as their soulmate. In fiction sign me the hell up.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-25 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't watched Tokyo Babylon/X, so I can't comment. I also haven't seen Hannibal, although I would say that one or both of the people in the relationship being criminal or evil towards people outside of the relationship doesn't

And Elektra/Matt IDK how good an example it is because IDK how many of their issues just come down to the fact that Matt Murdock's dick is cursed

I guess part of the concept of the soulmate as I understand it is that it's the most functional and satisfying relationship possible for that person

(Anonymous) 2020-05-25 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
I should have clarified that I meant Dardevil the show lol. They go super hard with Matt and Elektra having the same temperament, similar desires, a lot of the same trauma, and as a result they are probably the only people who will understand each other but also together are just a tornado that will destroy themselves and everyone around them. Perfect for each other, but in the worst way.

Yeah, having a healthy relationship as part of your definition for a soulmate is the only way it should be done in real life. Soulmates where the pair is toxic for each other tend to be more interesting to me because it's the tragedy of the person who is perfect for you also being the person who is the worst for you. It's sort of why villain/hero ships tend to love the soulmate trope- being each others true companion or perfect other half and the fact that you're on opposite ends of the moral spectrum is part of that.

Basically people who like angsty soulmates tend to be operating under a different definition of soulmate (that's something I notice a lot in fandom debates- we're all using the same words with completely different meanings).

If you like your soulmates to be good for each other then I've given you a great list of things to avoid! Or at least fandoms to avoid lol

(Anonymous) 2020-05-25 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Soulmates where the pair is toxic for each other tend to be more interesting to me because it's the tragedy of the person who is perfect for you also being the person who is the worst for you.

I think my point w this is like

to me, if you can imagine a person who is both perfect for you and also worst for you, then you can also imagine a person who is just perfect without the qualities that make them worst, and that's the person who would be accurately described as a soulmate. so, yes, ultimately i guess it's just a different definition

I can still get down with hero/villain ships and soulmate tropes but to me it has to involve some kind of change or alteration of the characters as part of the story I think. like, a redemption arc along with the soulmate stuff, or something along those lines. I can definitely get down w that