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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-05-29 07:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #4893 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4893 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Interview with the Vampire]


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[Disney Descendants 3]


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10. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia]



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(Anonymous) 2020-05-30 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I'd rather have a comment than a kudo any day of the week. As someone who has MORE THAN ONCE accidentally hit the kudos button without meaning to, I can't even be certain that a kudo actually means anything positive or that a person even read it. Even if it's intentional, it's the barest minimum feedback possible, which doesn't make me feel particularly motivated.

To me, fic writing can written for any number of reasons, none of which are wrong. But editing and posting a fic is different from writing one. It takes time and effort and represents a sort of transactional process. I stop doing it when I get nothing back, and I definitely stop doing it when people tell me I'm entitled for wanting some interaction and feedback from the people to whom I'm providing fandom content.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-30 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I can promise you that no one is accidentally giving you kudos, since you are the only person I have heard of in 25 years of being in fandom who has accidentally clicked on the specific and wholly separate button with the big heart on it that is obviously the kudos button. Are you just randomly clicking all over your screen or something? So rest assured. While you are well within your authorial rights to resent people who like your fic for not being articulate enough about how much they like it, you are being unfair and paranoid when you assume they're lying about liking it in the first place.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-30 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
No, they aren't. It's happened to me too. So now you've met at least two people this has happened to. And others have told me about it before too. It's very easy because the button is next to the "next chapter" button. Just because it's never happened to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen to other people. Especially people reading on their cell phones.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-30 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
SA. I can tell you that in my 20 years of fandom, it's only been relatively recently that there even was such a thing as a kudos button anywhere on the screen. So, let's not pretend that longevity provides any sort of strength to an argument here.

Despite your oh so many years in fandom, it apparently has done nothing for your reading comprehension. Nowhere in my comment did I say I thought people were lying. However, many other people in this very thread have pointed out that "kudos" can mean different things to different people. And for me (and others), one of those meanings is "Oh shit! I'm reading this on my tablet in bed at a weird angle and meant to hit next chapter/edit bookmark."

And yeah. If people can't be bothered to leave a comment as simple and inarticulate as "I liked this fic!" then I'm going to find other fandoms where my contributions are actually appreciated. Simple as that. Sorry if that makes me ~resentful.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-30 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
+++ Dang no upvote.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-31 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I hate the "but it takes so long to comment!"...I can assure you it takes me longer to write. I'm not resentful of people who just don't comment but I am resentful of the fact every time I express an opinion on wanting feedback because there seems to be an attitude of just consuming something and not interacting with people (and to me that's part of what makes fandom, fandom...we're engaging) is me being over the top and entitled. How is it not entitled to benefit from other people's hard work and then whenever someone is like "i'd sort of appreciate a few comments...if anyone feels like they want to maybe..." with long winded essays about how YOU SHOULD WRITE BECAUSE YOU LIKE WRITING IF YOU WRITE JUST TO GET COMMENTS YOU DON'T ACTUALLY LIKE WRITING.

I get both sides TBH. Just the whole debate is exhausting because people just assume you're either on one extreme or the other.