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⌈ Secret Post #4894 ⌋

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[What We Do in the Shadows]

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[sarazanmai]

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[image is a Dark-Eyed Junco (bird species)]

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[star wars]

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[Hairspray Live!]

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[homestuck 2]

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[ff7]

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[Doctor Dolittle]

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[great british sewing bee]

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["La Lisiada" scene from Maria la del Barrio]

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[Sailor Moon]

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I had a couple sips each of two different alcoholic drinks (Sex on the Beach, which was disgusting as fuck, and Gin & Tonic, which was slightly better but still gross) on my 21st birthday and never drank anything alcoholic again. I keep hearing that everyone hates the taste of alcohol at first and you have to "get used to it" but I don't really understand exactly what effect it's supposed to produce that would make it make sense to force yourself to get used to stuff that tastes awful. Like, I know you get drunk if you drink enough, but I don't exactly understand what that means or what positive things you get out of it?

(I realize I sound like a complete fucking moron right now, but I've never really understood the reasoning behind drinking alcohol and never wanted to ask anyone because obviously everyone's supposed to know and I feel like an idiot.)

Taken in moderation, alcohol makes most people feel relaxed and a little bit silly, and some people enjoy that feeling. That is all.

Hmmm, okay, I guess I get that.

Like, I know you get drunk if you drink enough, but I don't exactly understand what that means or what positive things you get out of it?

The only way for you to really understand it is to just get drunk. I mean, if you've ever been stoned or done any other drugs, then you know that they alter your way of experiencing the world, which is a feeling that's very difficult to convey with words.

That said, the way different people perceive the sensation of being drunk also varies quite a bit. We've got at least one person ITT saying they avoid getting drunk because they don't like the feeling.

That's almost unimaginable to me. I have intense generalized anxiety and getting drunk just completely erases it. Suddenly, the entire world seems fun. Everything is so effortless and exciting. I also feel more connected with my friends because I'm more relaxed and open to them, not reflexively holding myself apart the way I always am when I'm sober. And I'm a lot wittier because I just say whatever comes to mind, rather than triple-checking it and refining it to make sure it's what I mean.

The first time I got drunk, I remember declaring, over and over, that I would like to be drunk for the rest of my life.

Fortunately, I also got brutal hangovers which tempered my love of being drunk a bit, and over time I realized that the negatives of getting drunk were outweighing the positives (no matter how immense the positives feel while I'm experiencing them). At this point I only get drunk once or twice a year, and never drink apart from that.

But I really cannot overstate how incredibly good being drunk feels for some people. It's like a whole new world. Everything is better.

And for the record, I HATE the taste of alcohol. I think it is unspeakably vile. I never developed a liking for it in any way. But I mean, people willingly drink Buckleys when they have a cold, and it's nasty af. The good feeling I get from alcohol is so far beyond anything a nasty cough syrup has ever done for me.

The only way for you to really understand it is to just get drunk.

I guess I will never know then, because I have no desire to drink a bunch of gross stuff lol.

And I've never done any other drugs so I don't really know what that's like, either. I'm not opposed to marijuana, and was going to try it when I went on a trip to a state where it's legal, but they only let a limited amount of people in the store at one time, and the rest of my group really wanted to go and since I didn't care that much I ended up not going (and didn't feel like going back at another time), so it ended up just not working out.

Anyway, I feel like life is pretty fun as it is, but then I get made fun of for getting way too excited over even the smallest stuff so I'm probably just weird lol.

If you're a chill, happy person, then you'd probably just have a chill, happy experience being drunk. It probably wouldn't be that radical.

But if you've never experienced an altered state, then of course you don't "get" why people are into it. That's like saying "I don't get why people like music" if you've never heard music before. Of course you don't get it, you have no concept of it.

NAYRT but I think alcohol was this for my mom because we both had crippling anxiety, but I don’t drink because her drinking killed her. Also one of the things I’m most anxious about is losing self-control; I hate even the idea of drugs and alcohol because I don’t want to relax if it means not having it. But while I don’f think of myself as witty, I get mistaken for drunk/high sometimes because I’m weird and frequently have no filter despite my anxiety. It’s not that I don’t care what people think of me, I’m just bad at self control already so I’d be scared to experience anything without even my modest checks on my id.

I'm sorry you and your mom went through that, anon. It must have been incredibly difficult.

You're probably right. I think a lot of the time when someone gets very deeply hooked on a drug, it's because it "fixes" something that hurts them. It's not like an SSRI or whatever that kinda maybe makes you feel better. It's like a miracle. Everything is unambiguously better right away...until it isn't. And then you discover you broke a window, cut your head open, spit in someone's car, and pissed off all your friends. :(((

IMO you're very wise to avoid alcohol given your anxiety and your family history with addiction. Good for you.

What's interesting is that being drunk seems like it can go either way. On the one hand, there's people like me who feel miraculously "fixed" by it. My problem is that I'm too in control all the time. I'm so controlled I can barely move. Alcohol "fixes" that. Suddenly it feels easy and fun to do whatever fool thing comes to mind. But OTOH there are people who say they hate it because it makes them feel out of control. It's definitely possible you'd fall into the latter camp.

At first I couldn't fathom how anyone could not love the feeling of being drunk. But then I discovered that I HATE the feeling of being high. It is a horrible, horrible time for me. Which really made me realize exactly how different these altered experiences could be person to person, since so many people get so chill and have such a good time when they're high.

Anyway, good for your for exercising caution with yourself, anon. And I'm sorry about your mom.

Some people do genuinely enjoy the taste. Me, I like a nice wine or a good whiskey because I really do like how they taste. I don't drink to get drunk (and in fact have only ever been drunk once in my life), I drink them for the same reason I drink... anything else I drink: because they taste good.

NAYRT - I've long suspected that the taste of alcohol itself (that ferment and/or astringent taste of Things Gone Hella Bad On Purpose) is something some people just have more taste receptors for than others.

I have no idea if there's any science to back me up. I just know that if you put a half-shot of high-quality vodka in a litre of Coke, I will be able to taste it and I will think it tastes bad. I understand that when other people drink something with alcohol in it, they are tasting all sorts of flavors of the beverage, and some of those flavors are enjoyable. But for me, the taste of ROT, SPOIL, BADNESS, IT'S POISON YO, is so prominent that I can't enjoy any other flavors that may be in the drink. Like, a bellini tastes like ROT, SPOIL, BADNESS, IT'S POISON!!! (and also peach).

I really envy people who can enjoy various alcoholic drinks. There's so many options and they always make them look so cool and fancy. :)

Fermented foods in general are polarizing -- yogurt, various pickled things, kombucha, etc., so I wouldn't be surprised if there's a genetic component. It's like how some people think cilantro is spicy and good and others think it is nasty soap tasting. (And some people think it's spicy and hate spicy food and some people think it's soapy and like it anyway.) Flavors are weird and taste is personal.

Oh, good point! I'm a non-picky eater, but I've always hated the taste of pickled things. I'd never really thought to link that to my sensitivity to the taste of alcohol.

It's like how some people think cilantro is spicy and good and others think it is nasty soap tasting.

Heh, yup - Brussels sprouts, too.

A lot of stuff like that can also just be a matter of acquired taste. I didn't like either alcohol or coffee at first, but after I had them a few time, I grew to like the taste. It was just a matter of getting my tastebuds used to them.

I think that works if the taste is bad because it's very strong or weird to you. If it tastes like something that's actually trying to kill you, you might be able to make yourself get used to it, but you're probably not going to make yourself like it.

AYRT - Nah, I'm really good at acquiring tastes. Like I said, I'm a really non-picky eater. I will eat almost anything, and I've acquired tastes for a lot of different things over the years.

But alcohol is one that's just not ever going to happen. It is violently off-putting in an unparalleled way.

AYRT - Yup! I like all those things, but I realize it's a strong/weird taste that not everyone is going to like. I like the taste of pickled things, but only when it's stuff I'd like before it was pickled, if that makes sense. Can't stand pickled beets, but that's because they still taste like beets, not because they're pickled.

Actually, brussel sprouts literally taste different (better) these days:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/10/30/773457637/from-culinary-dud-to-stud-how-dutch-plant-breeders-built-our-brussels-sprouts-bo

https://www.bhg.com/news/brussels-sprouts-less-bitter/

https://xkcd.com/2241/

am currently a little drunk so...

the feeling you're chasing is a sense of relaxation, freedom, and a conscious lowering of inhibitions. some people can achieve it at a lightly tipsy level, others need a bit more, and it can change depending on your tolerance and experience. but generally, it's not being incapacitated, it's being a little wobbly but otherwise generally more genial, relaxed, open, and a little tingly, funny, off the wall. if you're a talkative drunk, it means sharing things without the desperate need to censor yourself. if you're an emotional drunk, it means expressing laughter and tears without being self-conscious about doing so. heaven help you if you're a mean drunk, though.

some drinks, if mixed too strong or with poor quality alcohol, taste terrible and there is no need to "get used to it." Either mix better, use better ingredients, or don't bother. I have German genes and a high tolerance so I usually drink my liquor neat, but my roommate is a lightweight so she needs good quality cocktails, mixed well, so she can't taste the booze. it's definitely possible. more than possible, I've had excellently mixed cocktails where I would swear there's no booze in them and yet half an hour later I'm pleasantly wobbly. it sucks that you do have to try so hard to find the perfect mixed drink but you kinda do.

me, I've just been drinking rum neat because there's riots downtown from me and I don't want to deal with it. I'm drunk enough to type without needing spellcheck but not so much that I'll be hung over.

the feeling you're chasing is a sense of relaxation, freedom, and a conscious lowering of inhibitions.

I mean, yeah. Unfortunately, the amount I need to drink to have that effect is substantial. It's not something I can do in a remotely healthy way. Then again, I don't really think one can chronically medicate with alcohol in a healthy way, even if they are a lightweight.

but my roommate is a lightweight so she needs good quality cocktails, mixed well, so she can't taste the booze. it's definitely possible.

I'm not a lightweight. I can keep up with guys who have fifty pounds on me. However, I am deeply skeptical that you could mix a booze drink that wouldn't taste like ass to me. I've had bartenders and experienced drinkers alike try and fail. *shrugs*

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