[ SECRET POST #697 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #697 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

101

[kiwi-from-hell.livejournal.com]

Wow, that was going so well, y'know, until the ending of "Will I die alone and unhappy oh god, I need a man." Way to ruin your own point.

Re: 101

[(Anonymous)]

My thoughts exactly.

Re: 101

[(Anonymous)]

The irony is just delicious though.

Re: 101

[viserys.livejournal.com]

This.

Re: 101

[(Anonymous)]

Well, there's nothing wrong with wanting a partner, settling down with someone, etc. I thought sounds to me like she's saying she'd like to have a relationship but with someone who sees her as an equal, not that she'd omg die if she didn't get a boyfriend.

Re: 101

[(Anonymous)]

* That should have read "it sounded to me like..."

Re: 101

[chibi-scriber.livejournal.com]

Agreed. I mean it's normal and human nature to want someone else. It's when that's your only want as in the case of Bella that it becomes troublesome. Bella was throwing away her family, her friends, her college and thus future by choosing Edward. Let's not forget that catatonic ( 6 month? I forget exactly how long it was ) state she went into when he left her.

Re: 101

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. And while I've only read summaries of Twilight, that catatonic state was insane. Especially how there were ten blank pages or so left in the book, which was supposed to be some artistic representation of her despair or something. It's both hilarious and horrifying.

(LOL recaptcha is 'spark and admit')

Re: 101

[postal152.livejournal.com]

Well said!

Re: 101

[dhaunea.livejournal.com]

Actually, Elpheba went catatonic when Fiero died, as I recall. To the point of having to be cared for and not even realizing when she gave birth.

That part of the book completely creeped me out.

Re: 101

[tryxkittie.livejournal.com]

I think catatonia is just a lazy way to show how in lurve ppl are and can only work if the relationship itself is shown (rather than told) as being just that powerful. There's nothing wrong with being in deeply in love with somebody else. It's just...how it's represented that can send horrible messages and because of that, people start having such a strongly negative reaction to it that they start seeing any case of a girl being deeply in love with a guy as somehow misogynistic >_>

Re: 101

[dhaunea.livejournal.com]

Beware the madly twitchy and overly personal response.

That book made me actively nauseous for that exact reason. It is the first book in ages that I had to force myself to finish and walked away from absolutely sickened by the crushing depression of the ending.

(I'm referring to Wicked here, not Twilight. Firstly, it was an adulterous relationship, which bothers me on both sides. Secondly, the author took a woman who was fighting for what she believed in and instead made her a mentally and emotionally unstable creature who couldn't even acknowledge or treat her own son like a human being in the aftermath.)

I have deeply personal reasons for being completely turned off, disappointed and disgusted with people who decide to write stories where 'ZOMG, I can't live without you, and to prove it, I'm going to have a breakdown, expect everyone else to clean up my messes, act like a martyr and NEVER BE WHOLE AGAIN!!!'

Yeah, it's a natural, internal reaction and part of the grieving process, but it sure as hell isn't romantic and carrying on in that fashion does nothing for the deceased (who is probably rolling over in their grave in revolted embarrassment).

None of the unfortunately large circle of widows that I know have spent the rest of their lives wandering around in a self-indulgent, self-destructive, martyr-like daze. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm saying it's painful to see representations of it in fiction held up as 'romantic' and 'oh my god, see how much she loved him'.

Because, of course, the best monument to someone who loved you is to let the world know that you are a delicate snowflake who always needs to be center of attention, because you're the ONLY person to ever suffer a tragedy and no one can possibly understand how you suffer. That'll really help.

This is twice as embarrassing when (in Twilight's case) the poor object of affection is still alive and around. An ex pulled that one on someone I care about deeply, and it's almost as bad as declaring that they're going to die/commit suicide without the object of their affection. 'Oh my god, you caused me to have a breakdown. Your inability to acknowledge my love has ruined me.' It's a creepy, creepy 'get psychological help NOW' thing.

... yeah, I have a lot of personal issues with the writing of one person of either gender being totally, emotionally dependent on another. It's not romantic, it's a sign of someone who is making the other person in the relationship shoulder 100% of the responsibility for their partner's mental and emotional well-being and it's both unhealthy and precludes any sort of equality or give-and-take in the relationship. It's controlling, it's mildly abusive and it makes the other person do all the damn work.

Finding it in real life makes me avoid that person from there on out. Finding it in fiction makes me abandon the book instantly. I've seen too much of it in real life.

Re: 101

[tryxkittie.livejournal.com]

This. So much.

Re: 101

[(Anonymous)]

isn't the man she states she wants a philanderer?

'signed, a modern Elphaba (looking for her Fiyero)'

not exactly the model man there.

Re: 101

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't get that reference, so I'll look it up. But aside from the signature, I still agree with the rest of the secret.

Re: 101

[postal152.livejournal.com]

Depends on whether she's talking about the book or the musical. In the book, yeah, it's pretty awful, he's married with kids, I think. In the musical he's going out with Glinda, but one could make the argument that they break up before anything happens.

Re: 101

[(Anonymous)]

the op WAS talking about books so it's a natural progression to think she is STILL referring to books.

Re: 101

[postal152.livejournal.com]

Aw, crush my hopes that someone was talking about Wicked the musical without derision, why don't you.

Still, I think this doesn't have much to do with the actual secret. She sounds like an Elphaba, probably relates to her, and Fiyero happened to be her love interest.

Re: 101

[paperclipchains.livejournal.com]

Eh, I read it like "Will I never be able to find a partner because I'm not appropriately feminine and demure?"

Re: 101

[(Anonymous)]

but her alternative is to be strong, independent, and fucking around with a married man.

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[paperclipchains.livejournal.com]

No, not really. It's one of those rose-tinted glasses shipper things going on here, like when people post "I found the Light to my L! Isn't it romantic!" and the rest of us are like "Ok but weren't they always trying to kill eachother?"

Re: 101

[(Anonymous)]

married is married. *shrug* I guess marital fidelity is not supposed to mean anything any longer.

Re: 101

[(Anonymous)]

Really, it's that this person is idolizing someone who wants to shit all over social and moral obligations. Cheating is considered bad for a reason, and here's a hint: it's not because of the promiscuity. The reason is because you hugely violate someone else's trust and don't take responsibility for your own commitments.

If somebody wants to fuck around, that is their business, so long as everybody's happy with it. It's different with marriage, though. Like it or not, a marriage is a commitment. Just because someone finds *tru wuv* does not give them the right to take a massive dump on someone else's dignity.

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[klmnumbers.livejournal.com]

I thought the "modern day elphaba" part was pretty tragic myself.

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[tryxkittie.livejournal.com]

I dunno...like others have said I don't think that being a strong woman means never being with anyone, or even having the desire to be with anyone.