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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-12-02 05:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #697 ]


⌈ Secret Post #697 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] insanepurin.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Did I specifically define feminazi? Okay, lemme do that. They are not the same as feminists. Feminists want equal rights. Feminazis are an extreme stereotype about burning bras, feeling oppressed because a guy opened a door for you and allowed you to go first, and sexist with seething hatred at anyone with a Y chromosome.

On the other hand, invading Poland sounds like a lotta fun.

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

(Anonymous) 2008-12-03 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I'm confused - are you saying that 'feminazis' are only a stereotype or that they actally exist?

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] insanepurin.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying that some stereotypes don't exist in real life. What I'm saying is that a writer can take character's beliefs and blow them out of proportion that few people relate with in life, like setting up a straw man (straw woman, in this case).

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

(Anonymous) 2008-12-03 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for clarifying. I got the feeling that you mean that so-called feminazis were pretty much a straw man argument but I wasn't sure.

(I've actually never met one of these feminazis in real life, and I've been around a lot of feminists.)

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] insanepurin.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
No prob. :) We can both be lucky we haven't met one of those types--the feminists I've met were really nice. :)
Edited 2008-12-03 00:47 (UTC)

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] kaatsu.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Feminazis are a rare creature, thriving mainly in the fevered minds of creepy men convinced that the women's lib movement is to blame for why no women will touch them, but also in the minds of misogynist girls who desperately posture about how they're cool because they're not "one of those feminazis!".

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

(Anonymous) 2008-12-03 12:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed so hard.

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] floriatosca.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Can we invade Belgium, too? I'm in the mood for waffles.

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] insanepurin.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not asking much. Just Hawaii and New Zealand. ;D

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Feminazi is a term coined by Rush Limbaugh to degrade feminists and create strawman arguments.

And on that note, I'd really love to know where these extreme stereotypes of Y chromosome hating women are in literature. I can't think of ever reading any off the top of my head. They might be out there, but I think rumors of their presence have been greatly exaggerated.

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] insanepurin.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Fanon*Wufei? My knowledge of actual canon on Gundam Wing is limited to Endless Waltz, and the fanbase scared me away eons ago. Uh huh. Duo definitely hacks his wrists for Heero weeping a recitation of "Annabel Lee."
Edited 2008-12-03 00:14 (UTC)

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
...Wouldn't fanon Wufei be an example of a straw misogynist, hating anything with two X's? Unless. Um. Does someone write him genderbent?

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] insanepurin.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Hm, guess so. I haven't seen anyone genderbend him though. Only a matter of Rule 63 coming to play, I guess?
Edited 2008-12-03 00:46 (UTC)

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] theorclair.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Joanna Russ. And Marion Zimmer Bradley to a degree. I admit that they are really rare, though.

This stuff always reminds me of Ursula LeGuin commenting on one of her stories that people critizied The Left Hand of Darkness for always using male pronouns. She then wrote a story in the same world and used female pronouns exclusively, and commented "Now I've offended all the people I didn't offend the first time."

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] honeysuckle-raw.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Feminazis are an extreme stereotype about burning bras, feeling oppressed because a guy opened a door for you and allowed you to go first, and sexist with seething hatred at anyone with a Y chromosome.

A stereotype used over and over and over again to discredit ACTUAL feminism. And you're not helping.

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] batty-gal.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
*thumbs up*

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] insanepurin.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Right. And I'll say it again: Feminism =/= Feminazism. It's the authors who write that stereotype who aren't helping: I never said all feminists are feminazis. I thought I made it clear in my comment that feminists are about equal rights.

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
You don't seem to grasp the point: "Feminazi" is not a legitimate distinction. Period.

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

[identity profile] insanepurin.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Did I say it was a legitimate distinction? Where on earth are you getting this from? I am NOT pigeon-holing feminists and accusing all of them of being militant! If I can't discern the difference of these terms enough, let Merriam-Webster do it for you: Feminist (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feminist) and Feminazi (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feminazi).

Re: SAY IT WITH ME PEOPLE

(Anonymous) 2008-12-03 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I think what's not clear in your replies is whether you think 'feminazis' are real or not. Other people are saying they don't exist, they're something made up to discredit feminists and the feminism movement. It's not clear whether you agree with this or whether you think these militant feminists exist.