[ SECRET POST #4900 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #4900 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[watamote]



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02.
[artemis fowl]


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03. [SPOILERS for Star Trek Discovery]



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04. [SPOILERS for Legend of the White Snake]



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05. [SPOILERS for Crazy Rich Asians trilogy]



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06. [SPOILERS for The Untamed]



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07. [WARNING for possible discussion of rape]




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08. [WARNING for homophobia]



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09. [WARNING for discussion of rape]



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10. [WARNING for discussion of underage sex]



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11. [WARNING for discussion of bullying/abuse]

[Sally Face]


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12. [WARNING for weight loss discussion (OP warned just in case)]



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13. [WARNING for discussion of vore/incest/necrophilia?]






















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #701.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[feotakahari]

Where did all that hyper-masculinity stuff even come from? Was it some kind of pushback against yaoi?

[(Anonymous)]

There's this subset (or at least there was)of female slash writers who worship the idea of writing men "correctly". Yeah, I think it's a pushback against certain complaints people have about slash, but it tends to go wildly in the opposite direction, until it's just as inaccurate.

[tabaqui]

I have never even heard of this stuff until now.

[tozka]

I feel like it came from the really old school fandom stuff, which was heavy on "gay for you" tropes for a while. Also probably homophobia, tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

I remember the "I'm not gay I'm just gay for you" thing as being a way to make a ship work when a character was always shown as attracted to the opposite sex. I guess we didn't know about bisexuality in 2001. But anyway, I remember a ton of "gay for you" stories but I don't remember much hyper masculine characterization. If anything I think we stanned the men with Feelings (tm).

[(Anonymous)]

It was a different time. People were railing about even the suggestion that HP characters might be gay because 'think of the kids!' And I remember as a teenage slasher feeling genuinely conflicted - like maybe even considering reading slash was wrong even though I knew myself I was bi.

There was a lot more guilt, secrecy, internalised homophobia, and repression back then because homophobia was considered more normal still. Writing RPF, the 'only gay for you' was a way of not making people actually gay. Because that made them weak. IT was immensely fucked up and a very toxic way of thinking. It took me a while to unlearn it from LOTRPS but also SG1 fandom.

Society has come a long way since then or at least I hope so.