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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-06-05 05:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #4900 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4900 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[watamote]



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03. [SPOILERS for Star Trek Discovery]



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04. [SPOILERS for Legend of the White Snake]



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05. [SPOILERS for Crazy Rich Asians trilogy]



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06. [SPOILERS for The Untamed]



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07. [WARNING for possible discussion of rape]




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08. [WARNING for homophobia]



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09. [WARNING for discussion of rape]



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10. [WARNING for discussion of underage sex]



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11. [WARNING for discussion of bullying/abuse]

[Sally Face]


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12. [WARNING for weight loss discussion (OP warned just in case)]



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13. [WARNING for discussion of vore/incest/necrophilia?]






















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(Anonymous) 2020-06-06 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
I get what you're getting at here, but that literally has never happened in any video game that these guys rail about. I mean that. Never. They find offense in so much as a background character mentioning a same-sex wife or husband-- literally the same dialogue as all the other straight NPCs. But that existing is "proof" of "shoving it down [their] throats."

(Anonymous) 2020-06-06 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
Well... Dragon Age: Inquisition did this several times over so yeah, it does happen and if it does, it's jarring and immersion breaking. Doesn't change that these people we're talking about here actually do flip out if there is even a passing mention of anything lgbt related.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-06 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, how is that immersion breaking?

(Anonymous) 2020-06-06 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Dorian's backstory is unambiguously gay. But it follows about a dozen characters with backstories involving unambiguous heterosexual relationships from the same studio including:

* Sarevok
* Keldorn
* Cern
* Linu
* Aribeth
* Sharwyn
* Tomi
* Sky
* Hou
* Carth
* Garrus
* Aveline

That's off the top of my head discussing companion characters who quite explicitly have straight partners somewhere in world, living or dead. Compared to how often Hou goes out of his way to describe how his wife is the worst person in the world in almost every single dialogue, Dorian's initial reluctance to discuss his family issues is pretty subtle.

[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2020-06-06 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I will not tolerate this Sera erasure.

I think the anon you responded to might be talking about Krem which is weird because you don't have to speak to him. Ever.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-06 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember Sera as mostly hidden behind romance dialog, while Dorian's is a big part of the loyalty mission.

An Krem is not only optional, I think it's hidden behind time locked dialog. You have to keep clicking on him in multiple sessions over hours of play to get the full story.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-06 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
SA: And let's be honest, few people really had a problem with Bioware's buxom blue space-bisexuals, or player-character plus Leliana the cute redhead. The arguments about forced inclusion got rolling when a fan flipped the fuck out over Anders getting an optional flirt dialog hidden behind a hart in the radio menu.

[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2020-06-06 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh? When did that happen outside of optional quests or initiating convos with NPCs?

(Anonymous) 2020-06-06 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't tell what you're even talking about. The game gets a little heavy-handed with Krem in one conversation you trigger by misgendering him, and I think in that situation it's fair that Bull sets you straight. And it's a tavern conversation; your character is trying to get to know people and no one is actively fighting anything at the time, so unless you're also against the scene where Bull explains how horny killing a dragon made him, or Varric bringing the inner circle together for a game of cards, you can't call that "taking the time out of not dying/saving the world from aliens/fighting zombies".

Or is this about Dorian's backstory and the magical conversion therapy his dad wanted to put him through? Because that's just how personal quests are, you take the time out of your busy schedule to help a companion and learn something about them in the process. Honestly, Blackwall's personal quest is more disruptive, because if you want him in the party you have to deal with it right when it happens.