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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-06-06 05:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #4901 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4901 ⌋

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Re: TW, discussion of police violence

(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
I think you're taking "Dismantle the police" as "no law enforcement ever", which really isn't what people are talking about. What people are saying is that law enforcement has no business being in about 98% of the things that they're called to deal with (i.e. someone in mental health crisis, a homeless person loitering, etc.), and they should have their reach scaled back to a point where they will never be called to those situations again. The absolutely absurd amount of money police currently get would be disseminated to other services that are trained to deal with those particular scenarios both productively and no violently, focusing on getting the person(s) involved help instead of "scaring them straight" or immediately arresting them,funneling them into an abusive, retribution-based prison system that is almost impossible to ever get out of due to the way a prison record legit ruins your life.

Also, it is true that crime rates go down alongside depolicing. Of course it still happens, but not at nearly the rate.

Law enforcement would still exist. But they would be purely for scenes of active person-on-person violence, and even in that case, they would be more heavily trained in deescalation techniques, have bodycams on at all times (to be reviewed by an independent board outside the police system), and have accountability at all times.

Re: TW, discussion of police violence

(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
This, and then even more so - even with the specific tasks that do need some form of police-like intervention, that doesn't have to mean that it has to be police forces as they exist now. It doesn't have to be the same institution, it doesn't have to be run by the same people, it doesn't have to have the same name, etc.

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for this. This is the first time anyone has explained that it doesn't mean "no law enforcement ever," because that's exactly what all the other explanations sounded like they wanted.

Well, the whole big movement could use some work at being clearer with what they really want, then.

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I understand the frustration. When so much is happening at once, it's easy for people to let things boil down to a neat, clipped, easily retweetable soundbite, so nuance definitely gets lost along the way.

Thank you for being open to hearing this perspective!