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⌈ Secret Post #4908 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

She's definitely transphobic and I really hate that she is.

But I also feel really creeped out when otherwise level-headed mature fandom blogs that are always talking about "cancel culture is bad" and "black-and-white thinking is a dangerous fallacy" turn around and go "too bad JKR is the devil now". And I feel weird unilaterally saying that someone who has given more to charity causes I value than I could make in a thousand years is "a bad person", full stop.

I think she's an asshole for not listening to the people she's hurt and using her platform to lash out. I think she's in a rich-and-successful bubble where editors don't tell her no any more, but that she's also spent almost 20 years during the rise of the internet under the ridiculous pressure of global attention, and now she's being Virally Shamed, and I just...I feel like that would make anyone go defensive and weird. I think there's definitely fucked up racist stuff in her books, and I also think she was trying during the 90s, and then (under the pressure of relentless neo-woke tumblr scrutiny) made some very bad calls alternately trying to seem better than she was, and refusing to try.

Overall, I just...I think she's a person who made something important, who has done some very good things and who has some very fucked up beliefs, and who ought to stop using her platform to say bigoted things. But I also wish we could collectively decide to stop obsessing over the stupid shit she says, because that's why she has a platform. Neverlandpark on tumblr has a great post about the "cold and dystopian idolship" of celebrity culture that really struck a chord with me.

[(Anonymous)]

I've always thought she had questionable views on gender. She has very strict gender views that comes across in the Potter books very clearly to me. Women are this, men are that. In her mind, they are equal but clearly different. Which is another form of sexism, not just transphobic.

[(Anonymous)]

huhn. yeah, you're probably right.

[(Anonymous)]

Bezos gives to charity. He's a horrible person who commits human rights violations. Does your goodwill extend to him? No? Same thing.

She literally defended (an applauded) someone who called trans women "sexually deviant men in dresses."

[(Anonymous)]

Lol that’s a human rights violation?

[(Anonymous)]

presumable ayrt meant the working conditions he imposes, contra JKR's crime of "saying deeply shitty stuff".

and no, I'm comfortable calling bezos a bad person because he's a capitalist - because his billions from which he draws any slivers of charity come from stealing the wealth of workers. JKR is the freak case of making absurd amounts of money because she actually just...made a thing. That everyone loved.

tldr I think human rights abuses are more evil than bigoted beliefs. And I think some of the energy behind denouncing JKR is as much a desire to prove that we're grown-ups now and it was ALWAYS shitty as it is a desire to actually defend trans people.

[(Anonymous)]

The thing is people like JKR don't just talk a shitty game, they play a shitty game and vote in people in line with their shitty beliefs.

[(Anonymous)]

She is a billionaire who created one of the most popular book series in Earth and is still actively making blockbuster movies and is actively in the public eye constantly. That's why she has a platform. I don't think "ignore her and she'll go away" is going to work or take those things away. I don't think it's obsessing over her to reject what she says and I don't know how exactly you want people to react or why it's wrong to condemn her for spreading views that you disagree with and think are harmful.

[(Anonymous)]

I also reject what she says. But I've seen a whole lot more performative hate-memes and long rambling essays about JKR in particular and actually less debunking of TERF talking points than my dash usually sports, so it does feel like emotionally skewed priorities.

[(Anonymous)]

I think many people have emotional reactions to it, yes, that sometimes they want to express. I kinda think that's understandable and natural.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's fine to condemn her views too, but I wonder why anybody cares what some middle-aged author thinks of trans people and gender anyway. (I am middle-aged, by the way.)

I can appreciate that it could ruin her books for some people (which sucks for people who like Harry Potter) and maybe affect sales, but that's the risk she takes by taking a side in a cultural issue.

Otherwise, she's just another jackass with an opinion. She's not even donating to politicians that would hurt trans causes or anything, is she? Just flapping her twitter gums and writing essays about this fight she has no dog in?

[(Anonymous)]

She's a really successful author who is currently writing a bunch of movies and is very visible in the public eye and a bunch of people listen to what she says because they really liked her books?

[(Anonymous)]

Because... People listen to her??? Young people??? They do listen! She has influence! To act otherwise is stupid.

[(Anonymous)]

+100000000

[(Anonymous)]

I am super disappointed in her, partly because she is/was a good egg in a lot of ways I value, and partly because I hate that the jerks who have been horrible about her for a decade, for no good reason, can now be all smug about being "right." (Although I am pretty sure the worst JKR hater I know is at least as transphobic, which is almost funny yet shitty.)

[(Anonymous)]

Or these people realized ten years ago her books were kinda sexist and awful but people were all "MUH MAGICAL SCHOOLING"

[(Anonymous)]

Or nah.

It's true, people realized a long time ago that there were lots of problematic things in her books! And they talked about it! That has never made anyone smart or special. A lot of them were fans of the books despite their problematic elements because nothing in the books themselves is worse than what you can find in any other media, because lots of media is very problematic.

But there have also always been people who hated the books for innocuous personal reasons, and used the problematic parts to bolster their hate because it proved their hate was morally correct. Now they've hit the jackpot, and they love that JKR is transphobic because this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were right. They love that a famous influential person is hurting trans people with her words, because it makes them right about her all along. Some people are dicks like that. Sorry!