[ SECRET POST #4912 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4912 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

you seem to be confusing "women" and "painful hollow fictional caricatures written by men to be sex objects, scapegoats, or both"

I am not obliged to rehabilitate the later in the name of protecting the former

I will remove the misogynistic heaps of woman-shaped putrefying jello from my casual entertainment with extreme prejudice, and you're the one with comprehension difficulties if you think that has anything to do with misogyny on *my* part

[(Anonymous)]

Generally I find that if the women in a work of fiction are written as badly as you're talking about, so are the men, because the writer is just bad in general, so I'm curious how unbiased you are.

[(Anonymous)]

This holy shit. I have never read anything where I thought only the women (or for that matter only the men) sucked as characters in a story. Sometimes the main characters are boring and only the side characters are interesting, or the main characters are the only real seeming ones against a backdrop of walking cliches, but I’ve never seen it divided by sex.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

I can't think of examples off the top of my head but it's not really that uncommon to have stories where there's basically one female character who is The Girl or The Love Interest and they don't really put any effort into her characterization, but might still put effort into the male characters

[(Anonymous)]

That's been my experience as well.

[(Anonymous)]

Danm, lucky you. Recs? Examples?

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, not just a little defensive there, are we?
Have you considered - and you might want to be sitting down for this - taking the effort to write these otherwise shallow characters with depth and variety is a much more positive and much more feminist act than just throwing up your hands and going, "It's too hard so I shan't bother!"
Excising female characters and saying that's less sexist makes about as much sense as excising POC and saying that's less racist. It's not! You're just sweeping the problem under the carpet, where it will rot and stink up the place.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

Not everyone writes fanfic though...?
Some people enjoy fandom in other ways?

As someone who pretty much only enjoys anime and the such, well I can see where OP might come from. It's ... something I am guilty of doing somewhat unconsciously - enjoy sausagefest shows if only because then I don't have the displeasure of running into badly depicted women. Which are, well, pretty much all females in popular anime IMHO lol. But josei on the other hand tends to have a lot of well-written women so I enjoy (the few I watched). If anything, it's misandry on my part (as in "it's ok to read badly-written males but not women!") than the other way around.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not their job to "fix" mainstream media. They are not harming anyone by liking whatever fictional characters they please, and leaving it at that.

Acting like women are obligated to like X type of character or Z type of story line "in the name of feminism" is such bogus.

[(Anonymous)]

what fucking media are you engaging with where the women are either of those options? bc i haven't seen with any shows/movies where the women are written that badly for at least a solid decade.

[(Anonymous)]

Or you could try, y'know, writing them better than the content does? Also if you are that bothered, why do you like the media (however casually) in the first place? Try interrogating your own likes before getting shitty about other people's "reading comprehension" - ad hominem attacks are a dead giveaway jsyk.

[(Anonymous)]

Why do you keep asking us to make up for canon's problems? I don't have any interest in writing a shitty character better, because canon has already made me not like that character. If you want to do that, knock yourself out, but that's not how some people think.

[(Anonymous)]

+100000

All I get from AYRT is "Waaa, I'm mad you don't like the characters I think you should, and I'm going to use feminism to try to shame you for it!"

[(Anonymous)]

DA because the original anon clearly has strong opinions anyway, and perhaps they could be put to more productive use.