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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-06-26 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #4921 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4921 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-27 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Let's use an alternative: "Here's an actor best known for comedic roles, but every time I see him, my first thought is that he would play a good rapist." Or pedophile. Or whatever.

For one thing, it fails to acknowledge that these types of villains are not just silly and ultimately harmless Hollywood villains but instead reflect real trauma that many people experienced or have been affected by. It strikes me as disturbing that anyone's first thought would be that for any actor. Further it suggests that the actor looks/seems like they perfectly fit the "idea" of what one should be like, and so the OP can't possibly see them without making that connection. That's incredibly insulting.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-27 11:18 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Uhhhhhhhhhh I think that's taking it a lot further and more seriously than anybody actually bothers to think when they go "oh this guy would play a great serial killer."

(Anonymous) 2020-06-27 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhhhhhhh maybe people should put a little more thought into how it sounds to others when they say things like that. The OP admits that this is a weird thing to think about someone. Why is it surprising that other people would find it not only weird but horrible?

(Anonymous) 2020-06-27 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Because weird isn't necessarily horrible, nobody is actually calling anyone a Nazi, and this is about acting which is make-believe to begin with?

(Anonymous) 2020-06-27 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I give up. I don't know how to explain how this secret can be interpreted by some as being insulting and offensive. I'm not saying you have to agree with that interpretation, but you and/or others are refusing to even acknowledge that other people might do so. Sorry not sorry, but some people are unable to separate themselves from the horrors of Nazi ideology enough to be all "whoo, fun and games make-believe!"

(Anonymous) 2020-06-27 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Third or forth DA, but whatever -

You seem to be on a different page in talking reality when everyone else is talking fiction. The Hollywood Nazi archetype of “generically evil, snappy dresser, lazy shorthand for VILLIAN” is what’s being discussed, not the reality. You’re referencing Mengele when the rest of us are talking the baddies from Indiana Jones.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-27 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, because movies have never influenced cultural attitudes or even been used as propaganda, right? Indiana Jones baddies and Hollywood archetypes are not based on anything real, right?

If someone were to say that I looked like I'd be a great Nazi, I'd be horribly offended. Maybe he wouldn't be, who knows? But if the secret had been "I think he'd play a great villain, or a great alien, or whatever" (hell, even if it had been a non-evil character), it wouldn't be an issue. The OP specifically said Nazi. In today's day and age, saying "oh, fictional Nazis are harmless!" and saying "hey, that person really fits the Nazi archetype" should not be so easily dismissed as unoffensive.