[ SECRET POST #4923 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4923 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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02.
[Legend of the White Snake]


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03.
[Komi Can't Communicate]


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[The Elm-Chanted Forest]


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(Lucifer, Supernatural)


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06.
[Wheel of Time]


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[Queer Eye]


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08.
[Criminal Minds]






















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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Controversial Opinions (Non-Fandom)

[(Anonymous)]

Noone truly integrates. They just form pockets of their own cultures which consider themselves superior to everyone else.

Re: Controversial Opinions (Non-Fandom)

[(Anonymous)]

But what about Irish, Italian, German, Scandinavian, and central and eastern European immigrants to the United States during the 19th and 20th centuries? They were considered distinctly not American and then they integrated. So to say that no one ever integrates seems empirically wrong.

Re: Controversial Opinions (Non-Fandom)

[(Anonymous)]

All of those cultures have enough similarities that they integrated (white, christian).

Re: Controversial Opinions (Non-Fandom)

[(Anonymous)]

So when you said "Noone truly integrates", that was untrue?

Re: Controversial Opinions (Non-Fandom)

[(Anonymous)]

But it only counts if they're the same RACE.

Also everyone should have one unified culture, particularly white culture. If not they're violent heathens who should fuck off and die. /s

Re: Controversial Opinions (Non-Fandom)

[(Anonymous)]

I see you have an opinion based on a narrow view of your own personal experiences.

Does this happen? Yes. Does it happen every time any culture enters another and fails to assimilate? Hell to the no. Your experiences have not been wide enough to make a blanket statement like "multiculturalism has failed." There are two issues at hand: one, a stranger in a strange land has a need to cling to the familiar when faced with so much unfamiliarity, so yes, naturally, small communities or cliques form; and two, the prevailing attitude of any society is, "no, YOU blend in with US" and the concept of a multi-culture is squashed by the dominant culture that doesn't want another culture adding flavor to their own. Either way, the subculture never wins. So they have two choices: completely assimilate and give up everything about their culture, or become a separate community within the larger community.

I don't think this means multiculturalism doesn't work. I think it means we as a human species need to work a fuckton harder on shedding our instinctual need for tribalism and a Them against which we can pit Us as superior. It's not like it can never happen; there were times in history when, e.g. Japan assimilated outside culture rather than assert themselves as superior. It can be done. It's just hard to see when your entire viewpoint is colored by only ever seeing examples of distinct segregation rather than mixing.

Re: Controversial Opinions (Non-Fandom)

[(Anonymous)]

It's especially extraordinary when people make the argument that assimilation is impossible and point to a culture that is actively in the process of assimilating

Assimilation has not happened yet and therefore it will never happen, sayeth the wise man

Re: Controversial Opinions (Non-Fandom)

[(Anonymous)]

But multiculturalism seems incompatible with total integration: multicturalism to me involves separate cultures voluntarily living in close proximity and sharing aspects of themselves with each other either to promote things their culture values, or profit, or as an exchange because they find aspects of other cultures interesting but want to put their own spin on them (sometimes, admittedly, in shitty appropriative ways.).

A certain degree of cultural mixing is desirable because new ideas can benefit everyone; requiring that certain cultures abandon their history and traditions not because they’re harmful but because they get in the way of potential profits, or some find religious pluralism or LGBT+ identities offensive, or whatever, is bullshit. Honor killings are bullshit, FGM is bullshit, but so is running thousands of miles of guaranteed to spill oil pipeline through native lands, or bulldozing sacred sites to divide tribal lands, or chattel slavery in general most certainly including chattel slavery based on skin color.

Re: Controversial Opinions (Non-Fandom)

[philstar22]

This.

Re: Controversial Opinions (Non-Fandom)

[philstar22]

You say that as if integration is the ideal for multiculturalism. It isn't. Integration would mean everyone becoming like the dominant white European colonial culture. That's not what multiculturalism is at all.

Multiculturalism is cultures living together in harmony. Maybe there's some overlap and sharing. Little changes happen because living together over long periods of time and sharing means things just naturally become part of each other's cultures. But a lot of things are also going to remain separate and distinct and unique.