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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-06-30 05:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #4925 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4925 ⌋

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-07-01 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think that's a good analogy, unless you're saying that a dude's muscles make it harder to lift cars, and that however car-lifting dude looks is how we expect average dudes to look and lift cars.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-01 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. and also, there's not really systemic objectification of men in media the same way! And superheroes having superpowers like lifting cars does not play into that systemic objectification in any way!

(Anonymous) 2020-07-01 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
The hypersexualization of female characters in comics was definitely a factor behind making a lot of comics into a boy's club, practicalities aside. That's changed a bit now that Western comics have become a bit more "respectable."

da

(Anonymous) 2020-07-01 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
not to speak for that anon but the analogy might have been clunky. I get where they were going with it: if the worldbuild of the rest of the story involves teenagers capable of lifting cars and idk whatever else you want to class as "not realistic" then why should we expect realism in terms of how the characters' clothing is designed? The more over-the-top the rest of the cartoon scenario, the less cause we have to draw the line at something as mundane as a female character wearing impractical heels.

Cartoons/comics/anime/manga/vidya has a bit of wiggle room when it comes to expectations of practicality, compared to live action. I'd guess that's where anon was going with that.

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(Anonymous) 2020-07-01 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
But superpowers is still not in the same category as "dangerous/impractical clothing"
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-07-01 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
because a lack of realism is predicated on an understanding of realism, the "lack" is still with purpose, and we can critique and examine that purpose. if your fantasy is that girls look sexy first, that doesn't mean I can't wonder why you decided to share that fantasy as art or culture and I can find that it's in fact based on the very unfantastic cultural understanding that the ideal woman is an object to view.