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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-07-03 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #4928 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4928 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Emma 2020, OP warned for male nudity (from the back)]


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[Star Wars Expanded Universe, resized]


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(Anonymous) 2020-07-04 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
We need to have a discussion about how we organise things like sports.

My thing here is that, one, we should generally err on the side of waiting until there is some kind of actual problem that needs to be fixed, not just institute restrictions because we're concerned that there might be a problem in the future. Two, I think the best approach for discussing these things is for the relevant sports bodies to come up with rules that can appropriately deal with whatever problems arise, taking input from trans people. This is usually the approach that we take with sports regulation in general, and for pretty obvious reasons! Different sports have different problems to solve and solutions that work in one sport might not work in another.

So the idea of "we need to have a conversation about this", it just doesn't really add up to me. Who needs to have a conversation? What does the conversation need to be about? If the conversation is just that some people have fears about trans women in women's sport that they want people to listen to, I don't know how productive or necessary of a conversation that is.

Also I’ve asked dude and no man is being asked to bend over backwards to accomodate trans men.

I'm not totally sure what you actually have in mind in terms of cis men being asked to "bend over backwards to accomodate trans men." Like I don't know what that means. I think there are a lot of reasons that the situation of trans men and trans women are often different and trans women get a lot more hate but I'm just not even sure what you're talking about here.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-04 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
With the last part what AYRT is saying is that cis women are expected to bend over backwards to accommodate trans women (which isn't true; of course we should accommodate trans women, but if accepting someone's gender is so hard for you that you feel like you're bending over backwards, that's on you) and it's a misogynist conspiracy because cis men don't have to do the same for trans men.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-04 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Right, I understand the point of the question (and I should have been more forthright about specifying that the premise is itself transphobic), but my question is, what specific material things would "bending over backwards to accomodate trans men" include? What does that thing which isn't happening look like?

(Anonymous) 2020-07-04 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
it's a misogynist conspiracy because cis men don't have to do the same for trans men.

You know you don't see trans allies scold gay men when they say they refuse to socialize with or date transmen, most of the ire is directed towards women.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-04 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
wait, "socialize with"?

(Anonymous) 2020-07-04 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Wonder how many transmen are welcome in gay male spaces. Zero? Less than zero.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-04 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, Jan.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-04 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Where are you getting this view of the world, exactly?