[ SECRET POST #4928 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4928 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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04. https://i.imgur.com/D25cLFc.png
[Emma 2020, OP warned for male nudity (from the back)]


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[Star Wars Expanded Universe, resized]


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[365 Days, OP warned for image of a dub/non-con sexual situation]


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07. [SPOILERS for Far Cry 5 and Far Cry New Dawn]



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08. [SPOILERS for The Magnus Archives]



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09. [WARNING for sexual assault]



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10. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia]






















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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Trans women are women. I flatly refuse to use the term cis. I intensity disliked when people called me a pregnant person instead of pregnant woman. We need to have a discussion about how we organise things like sports. I am flat done with being lectured by self appointed trans allies about how we should treat trans people (as citizens with equal rights and access to specialised health care if necessary and sympathetic services).

Some of the above is enough to have me labeled as transphobic. In a few years when tempers cool we will all have this discussion. Also I’ve asked dude and no man is being asked to bend over backwards to accomodate trans men.

[(Anonymous)]

Straight women are expected to stand by their transwomen husbands and pretend to be lesbians and lesbians are asked to reexamine their genital preferences. I wonder why...

[(Anonymous)]

Why don’t you like using the term cis?

[(Anonymous)]

It's enough to have you labeled as transphobic because you are transphobic. Saying "trans women are women" isn't enough. You just sound ignorant, not malicious, and I don't think calling you what you are (transphobic) is a damnation of you. You can learn. You seem willing. But a lot of what you're saying is word for word TERF rhetoric and in order to truly not be transphobic, you need to first be able to admit that you are and then be open to listening and understanding the facts of why what you're saying is wrong.

+100000

[(Anonymous)]

THANK YOU.

For fuck's sake I'm so tired of people going "I don't get trans people! And since people have called me transphobic before in a way I found mean, I refuse to learn anything about them. Anyway, here is my 3000 word essay on trans people. Also I'm being oppressed."

[(Anonymous)]

We need to have a discussion about how we organise things like sports.

My thing here is that, one, we should generally err on the side of waiting until there is some kind of actual problem that needs to be fixed, not just institute restrictions because we're concerned that there might be a problem in the future. Two, I think the best approach for discussing these things is for the relevant sports bodies to come up with rules that can appropriately deal with whatever problems arise, taking input from trans people. This is usually the approach that we take with sports regulation in general, and for pretty obvious reasons! Different sports have different problems to solve and solutions that work in one sport might not work in another.

So the idea of "we need to have a conversation about this", it just doesn't really add up to me. Who needs to have a conversation? What does the conversation need to be about? If the conversation is just that some people have fears about trans women in women's sport that they want people to listen to, I don't know how productive or necessary of a conversation that is.

Also I’ve asked dude and no man is being asked to bend over backwards to accomodate trans men.

I'm not totally sure what you actually have in mind in terms of cis men being asked to "bend over backwards to accomodate trans men." Like I don't know what that means. I think there are a lot of reasons that the situation of trans men and trans women are often different and trans women get a lot more hate but I'm just not even sure what you're talking about here.

[(Anonymous)]

With the last part what AYRT is saying is that cis women are expected to bend over backwards to accommodate trans women (which isn't true; of course we should accommodate trans women, but if accepting someone's gender is so hard for you that you feel like you're bending over backwards, that's on you) and it's a misogynist conspiracy because cis men don't have to do the same for trans men.

[(Anonymous)]

Right, I understand the point of the question (and I should have been more forthright about specifying that the premise is itself transphobic), but my question is, what specific material things would "bending over backwards to accomodate trans men" include? What does that thing which isn't happening look like?

[(Anonymous)]

it's a misogynist conspiracy because cis men don't have to do the same for trans men.

You know you don't see trans allies scold gay men when they say they refuse to socialize with or date transmen, most of the ire is directed towards women.

[(Anonymous)]

wait, "socialize with"?

[(Anonymous)]

Wonder how many transmen are welcome in gay male spaces. Zero? Less than zero.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, Jan.

[(Anonymous)]

Where are you getting this view of the world, exactly?

[(Anonymous)]

Did people call you, specifically, a pregnant person, or were they referring to pregnancy in general which at the time happened to include you? If it's the former, then yes, it's still shitty to disregard someone's gender when referring to them. If it's the latter, why?

[(Anonymous)]

Women deserve equal rights with men. I flatly refuse to keep calling a woman by her maiden name after she marries. I intensely disliked when people told me it was my choice whether or not to keep my unwanted pregnancy. We need to have a discussion about how we organize things like "affirmative action." I am flat done with being lectured by self appointed feminists about how we should treat women.

Some of the above is enough to have me labeled as misogynistic. In a few years when tempers cool we will all have this discussion. Also I've asked and no woman is being asked to bend over backwards to accommodate men.