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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-07-03 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #4928 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4928 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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04. https://i.imgur.com/D25cLFc.png
[Emma 2020, OP warned for male nudity (from the back)]


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[Star Wars Expanded Universe, resized]


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06. https://i.imgur.com/R7v6vL6.png
[365 Days, OP warned for image of a dub/non-con sexual situation]


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07. [SPOILERS for Far Cry 5 and Far Cry New Dawn]



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08. [SPOILERS for The Magnus Archives]



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09. [WARNING for sexual assault]



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10. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia]






















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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #705.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: nayrt OR ayrt

(Anonymous) 2020-07-04 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but I am the one you originally replied to who asked if what trans people were asking for would hurt you in some way. And "maybe kids who think they're trans or non binary actually aren't" is, well, it's concern trolling.

Especially because there are people elsewhere in this thread arguing that puberty blockers, which give kids time to think over (and be counseled! By professionals who do this for a living!) whether they want to medically transition or not, and how much medical stuff they want to do when they're old enough, are dangerous. But without blockers, medically transitioning is more work, and maybe more dangerous, than with them, so maybe they should rethink this transitioning stuff.

Which ends up sounding like all the "it's a phase" stuff that gets thrown around about sexuality and is controlling bullshit.

Also, I honestly don't understand the furor over "people who menstruate" as a descriptor. It's accurate, doesn't leave anyone out or include anyone who doesn't need that info, and is exactly the kind of language that professional organizations doing work in reproductive healthcare should be using.

It's not some kind of dig at cis women aimed at making us less special, it really isn't. It's just a succinct, accurate way of referring to a group with the same medical concerns.

Also, I am in my 30s and I'm pretty sure there will be pregnant trans women, via uterine implants, within my lifetime. Maybe trans women who menstruate, too. I can't imagine why anyone would chose to menstruate if they had the option not to, but I don't have to understand since it doesn't effect me at all.

anon she replied to

(Anonymous) 2020-07-04 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have to understand since it doesn't effect me at all.

T H A N K Y O U.

Re: nayrt OR ayrt

(Anonymous) 2020-07-05 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, as I hope I've made clear, it's not that I don't want trans people to get whatever treatment they want and need, and the entire puberty blocker thing is one which I'm absolutely ignorant about. Questioning kids should be allowed to question and try out different gender presentations! But based on both my own discomfort with gender roles in a way that falls under the definition of enby these days, and on the particular breed of afab teens who seem to most frequently declare themselves trans or enby, I have the impression that a good number of them are, well, probably not. I'm loathe to use the word "transtrender", but I very much suspect that there is a good number of teenage girls who seem to think that the solution to whatever problems they have will be to start over as a boy, particularly if they're part of cliques where being lgbt+ is a status symbol.

I DO understand why a lot of trans people react to that with spikes out, since - yeah, concern trolling and all the bad arguments used against any out-group by their parents. But, well - as someone who thinks gender roles are bull, I definitely don't think we're moving in the right direction when the definition of nonbinary is "someone who finds gender roles oppressive".

It's not that I argue about the "people who menstruate" thing IRL, but I find it to be fundamentally uncessary all the time every person over the age of ten knows that menstruation is function of the female body. Trans men and afab enbies will KNOW if is information that applies to them, and they'll KNOW that their bodies are women's bodies. It's not that I see it as an attack at (cis) women, but it comes across as some weird kind of erasure. Particularly, I think, when it gets to the topic of pregnancy and childbirth, which ultimately are the source of the majority of traditions and cultural expectations defining womanhood.