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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-07-04 04:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #4929 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4929 ⌋

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DA

(Anonymous) 2020-07-04 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know I've seen people trying to remember where a fic they read was using a scene, a plotline. I mean who's to say they wouldn't try searching for a character that showed up in the fic.

The original commenter said they were talking about original fic. I don't know about you but I have original fic I have genuinely enjoyed enough to bookmark or look for again. TBH it sounds like you're making the assumption that OC character means nobody could possibly find them memorable

As for confusing names. They should include the character's last name in the character tag. People may get confused with just Logan but they probably wouldn't if the name is...I dunno Logan Williams or something. If I were going to tag a character that's what I'd do.

Aside from the confusable name thing which has an obvius solution. I don't really see any reason why tagging the major original characters in the work does any harm.
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[personal profile] erinptah 2020-07-05 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it's a hassle for tag wranglers.

Every unfamiliar character tag that comes along, we have to check: is this a minor/obscure canon character we've forgotten about? Is it a canon character given a different name (e.g. for a genderswap)? Or a name that's not actually in canon but has been embraced by fic-writers? Is this a crossover character from another fandom, which may or may not have its own wrangler? Is it a crossover character from a fandom that wasn't even tagged? Is it a misspelled version of any of the above?

Original characters take the most research (unless the author puts "OC" in the text of the tag, which does help), and for the least amount of payoff -- there's nothing you can do with them, they just sit around cluttering up your Unfilterable Tags lists.

If the character's name is in the work, it'll come up in an AO3 text search -- there's no benefit to putting it in the tags too.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2020-07-05 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
Out of curiosity, does this apply with original work, where there's no canon to research?
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[personal profile] erinptah 2020-07-05 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
No, you're right, the research part doesn't happen there -- assuming the fic itself is tagged OW. If it's tagged with the title of the OW series, there's a whole research process for that tag. And some fandoms end up synned to OW when they shouldn't be.

But if it's explicitly OW, the tags just get thrown directly into the "Original Work unfilterable character tags" bin.

Which currently consists of almost 117,700 tags across 5,885 pages. So if anything ever gets sent there by accident...or gets sent there prematurely, because it's used for one person's OC before a canon character with the same name shows up...they might be lost forever, because I don't think anyone's in charge of going through that mess to double-check.

(At a glance: "Gladio" is there despite being used almost exclusively for a Final Fantasy character, same with "Asra" for a The Arcana character, "Sekai" for an EXO pairing smushname, "Salem" even though that should be a NF metatag for characters from multiple canons. And that's just looking at tags with dozens-to-hundreds of uses.)