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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-12-08 05:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #703 ]


⌈ Secret Post #703 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[identity profile] velvet-mace.livejournal.com 2008-12-08 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
107) I always have to stop and think before pronouncing "uke". I grew up in Hawaii.

154) Different kinds of humor. Jon Stewart is a stand-up comedian, and basically his news show is a routine based on the daily news. He has a very dry sense of humor, pointing out absurdities and logical faults in the news. Stephen Colbert isn't doing stand-up, he's doing social satire. His "idiot" routine is actually only the most superficial component of his humor (it's the part that his republican guests always get tripped up by, because that's the only part they see), but that is just a cover for an incredibly brilliant satire of the whole right wing talk show phenomenon. The audience is supposed to connect the dots to get his real message.

155) This is why I don't follow the fandoms of most of the shows I like.

169) Well hello tentacles.

172) As a parent to a kid with Aspergers who has quite a few relatives on the spectrum, it annoys the ever loving fuck out of me that people use it like a crutch to act like jerk. Aspergers is not an excuse to act like an asshole -- it's the disabled person's onus to learn the rules to live in society.

That said, I think an inordinate number of people on the spectrum do gravitate to fandom because it tends to be very forgiving of quirky behavior and actually encourages them to indulge in their natural obsessiveness. It's a place where they can feel comfortable, meet people, and be accepted even if they can't indulge in small talk, and have absurdly narrow interests. Honestly, there really aren't many other venues for Aspie people to socialize.

[identity profile] cybra2003.livejournal.com 2008-12-08 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
172 - Word. Don't know anyone with aspergers, but I hate how people use it as an excuse. It ranks right up there with people who claim that their writing's crap because they have dyslexia. I've read good fics written by dyslexics before because they put care into their works. [/endrant]

Re: 172

[identity profile] masakochan.livejournal.com 2008-12-08 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS. um...except for the part about being a parent. I've actually been diagnosed with it. >>

Re: 172

[identity profile] foofighter0234.livejournal.com 2008-12-08 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I've actually been diagnosed with it. >>

You ain't the only one. I've been diagnosed too.

[identity profile] foofighter0234.livejournal.com 2008-12-08 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
172) As a parent to a kid with Aspergers who has quite a few relatives on the spectrum, it annoys the ever loving fuck out of me that people use it like a crutch to act like jerk. Aspergers is not an excuse to act like an asshole -- it's the disabled person's onus to learn the rules to live in society.

AMEN, SIR/MADAM. As a person with documented AS, I applaud you.

172 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-12-08 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It really is the new bipolar -- the thing people claim to have to get away with murder while the people really suffering from it are having the worst damn time. Oh, and a lot of times they exhibit the exact opposite symptoms, as mentioned in an earlier comment re: Aspergers. (Didn't realise 'til I started reading the comments that there is no apostrophe in said word ... shows what I know.)

And yeah, I know fandom's a place for it ... but from what little I know, someone generally suffering from it (Aspergers, not fandom) would not be the sort to pounce someone in a public place.

I do wonder if some of these people have been told by others that they are Aspie, or might be, and in a sort of self-diagnostic way go with it subconsciously because it feels handy.

Re: 172 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-12-08 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Er, GENUINELY suffering from it.

Re: 172 OP

[identity profile] foofighter0234.livejournal.com 2008-12-08 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, if you saw me, you'd know.

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[identity profile] velvet-mace.livejournal.com 2008-12-09 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's not as clear cut as that. For someone with Aspergers they may have seen other people glomp people and figured the rule "in fandom a way to show you like someone is to hug them" and "glomping is the way to show you are fun". The problem is they can't see any of the nuances of the rules such as "They have to like you back" or "Wait for them to ask first".

Conversely, they may hate being glomped themselves, but they don't generalize that to "other people may feel the same way". My son will tackle his friends, sister, me, his dad, but will go nuts if any of us try to grab him. Its a matter of being in control of whats going on.

Of course, the thing as soon as the person recoils, they should learn that they got the rule wrong, and then try to revise the rule. They should apologize but not make excuses and learn from the experience. But a lot of people who don't like to be glomped don't verbally object, or don't do it obviously enough for the Aspie person to pick up on it, and they can actually go quite a long time doing something reeeeally obnoxious before someone takes them aside and calls them on it.

The big difference is that Aspie people should be genuinely horrified that they made you uncomfortable. If they just blow you off, like it's your problem, they are just being jerks.

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[identity profile] foofighter0234.livejournal.com 2008-12-09 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
It's not as clear cut as that. For someone with Aspergers they may have seen other people glomp people and figured the rule "in fandom a way to show you like someone is to hug them" and "glomping is the way to show you are fun". The problem is they can't see any of the nuances of the rules such as "They have to like you back" or "Wait for them to ask first".

Conversely, they may hate being glomped themselves, but they don't generalize that to "other people may feel the same way". My son will tackle his friends, sister, me, his dad, but will go nuts if any of us try to grab him. Its a matter of being in control of whats going on.

Of course, the thing as soon as the person recoils, they should learn that they got the rule wrong, and then try to revise the rule. They should apologize but not make excuses and learn from the experience. But a lot of people who don't like to be glomped don't verbally object, or don't do it obviously enough for the Aspie person to pick up on it, and they can actually go quite a long time doing something reeeeally obnoxious before someone takes them aside and calls them on it.

The big difference is that Aspie people should be genuinely horrified that they made you uncomfortable. If they just blow you off, like it's your problem, they are just being jerks.


THIS. THIS THIS THIS. This explains how I am perfectly.

Re: 172 OP

[identity profile] teoka.livejournal.com 2008-12-12 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. When I find out that I've fucked up, I start crying.

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[identity profile] alice-64th.livejournal.com 2008-12-08 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
172. This. Not a parent, but a friend of two Aspies (as they call themselves).

[identity profile] ruriruri.livejournal.com 2008-12-09 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
172. As someone with a kid sister who has Aspbergers, let me tell you that you put it better than I could've. Thanks.

[identity profile] ruriruri.livejournal.com 2008-12-09 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
*Aspergers (pretend I can spell, too)

Re: 172 OP

[identity profile] strifekun.livejournal.com 2008-12-09 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
As someone with Aspergers, thank you. You've explained it very well.

[identity profile] comic-heroine.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
My younger brother has AS, as does my little cousin. But you have put it very well. Thank you!