[ SECRET POST #704 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #704 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.
[The World Ends with You]


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[Detective Conan, Kyou Kara Maou, Hana Yori Dango, Lovely Complex]


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108. [removed]


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112.
[House]


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113.
[Rookies]


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114.
[Pokemon/Digimon]


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[tinman (dg/glitch); she & him]


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116. [not fandom]


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[Torchwood, Jack/Ianto]


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[Satisfied?]


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[Chelsey Lately]


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[Queer as Folk]


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[Sleeping Beauty]


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[Mighty Boosh]


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[Golden Sun]



Notes:

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Comments

[zidane.livejournal.com]

... And Lillith was appropriated by the Jewish culture from preexisting Mesopotamian folklore. I believe Lillith Fair was named because of the more recent and popular folklore that Lillith was Adam's first wife, who left him because she didn't want to submit. This was the aspect of the tale that most people heard of in the Mid-90's, and hence the title. To what extent appropriating a mythical figure for a music festival is feminist or not...\o_O/?

[childings.livejournal.com]

... And Lillith was appropriated by the Jewish culture from preexisting Mesopotamian folklore.

Dude, what about Jewish religion wasn't? Most of it was. Who cares. Every near-eastern religion ripped off of another religion, none of them are truly "original".

What I want to know is what the fuck is wrong with Eve. It seems like people would rather pick Lilith over Eve because she seems more "independent" or whatever, but Eve brought humanity knowledge of good and evil, the ability to choose, not to mention she's the mythical mother of humanity. Much cooler than some bitch who ran off and spawned a bunch of demon kids.

Whatever, my real point is that people should read religious myths before appropriating figures from them.

[sarolynne.livejournal.com]

I can't help but feel that you're missing the point. Eve has been held up for, you know, ever as the person who brought on the fall of man. She was made from part of Adam's body for the purpose of being a companion for him, and to be submissive to him. If you've heard three religious fundy rants about women's place, then I'm willing to bet that at least one of them mentioned Eve as one of the reasons why. While there may be, and I have heard, alternate interpretations of the Adam and Eve story and relationship dynamics, it is pretty fundamentally weighed down with sexist baggage at this point.

If you want to get away from that image, Eve is not a figure you go for. There might be arguments to be made for reclaiming her, but in the end, I think they were looking for an entirely alternate model for being female. And you know, in the end, some people would rather be a bitch who ran off and spawned a bunch of demon children than submissive scapegoat for all of the woes of mankind.

I actually think you're being a little naive in assuming that the appropriation was made without knowledge that Lilith wasn't exactly a nice lady.

[childings.livejournal.com]

Eve has been held up for, you know, ever as the person who brought on the fall of man.

It's not my fault that Christians totally misinterpreted Jewish religion.

I actually think you're being a little naive in assuming that the appropriation was made without knowledge that Lilith wasn't exactly a nice lady.

Well fuck, the way you hear women talk about her, she might as well be the greatest religious figure ever (despite the fact that she was never technically a person... the whole point was that she rejected humanity, both Adam AND Eve, but whatever).

Anyway, whatever. I get your point, and I guess you get mine.