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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-12-09 05:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #704 ]


⌈ Secret Post #704 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.
[The World Ends with You]


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104.


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105.
[Detective Conan, Kyou Kara Maou, Hana Yori Dango, Lovely Complex]


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108. [removed]


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111.


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112.
[House]


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113.
[Rookies]


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114.
[Pokemon/Digimon]


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115.
[tinman (dg/glitch); she & him]


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116. [not fandom]


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117.
[Torchwood, Jack/Ianto]


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122. [repeat]


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125. [removed]


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128.
[Satisfied?]


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130.
[Chelsey Lately]


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133.
[Queer as Folk]


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137.
[Sleeping Beauty]


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144.
[Mighty Boosh]


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162.
[Golden Sun]



Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 10 pages, 240 secrets from Secret Submission Post #101.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 3 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - take it to comments ], [ 1 - doing it wrong ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-09 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
105. ... This is a secret why?

106. Then maybe you should think before you rip an author apart now, given the fact that somehow, after you wrote your Mary Sue fic, the sun didn't fall out of the sky and the world kept turning.

111. He kind of sucked.

127. So long as I'm bitching about sues and overreactions, I hate that the way you represent Sues is by having one of these dolls and making them look sufficiently pretty and slightly out of the ordinary. None of those are particuarly appealing but why am I the only one who thinks a character should look distinctive? That doesn't mean they have to sparkle or wear ridiculous and impractical dress everywhere, but they don't have to walk around in a grey frock either.

139. I don't know what this is but I laughed.

140. Who fucking cares? Really? Sometimes I think research is overrated, especially when it leads to hilarious religious faux-pas that only English audiences will understand!

159. Yay, projecting! Have you got any plans to actually deal with that anger or are you just going to be an asshole and post about it to Fandomsecrets?

161. OH MAN, YOU'RE MAJORING PSYCHOLOGY AND YOU THINK IT WOULD BE TOTALLY CANON?! WELL NOW I'M TOTALLY SOLD, I GUESS THERE'S NO POINT IN ARGUING!

Why do so many psych students do this? Why?

159 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-12-09 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just going to be an asshole! :D

No, this was a secret I made a while back and then posted recently in a big batch of them. At the time I was angry HULK SMASH. Now, I don't really care. My friend has dropped WoW, so no more ignoring me for half an hour at a time in order to go on raids or what-the-fuck-ever or spending all her time making my eyes spin talking about pallies and aggro and other shit I neither care about nor understand.

But I'll probably continue to be an asshole.

Re: 159 OP

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-09 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd kind of like to blame you for it and project my own anger onto you, dear anon, but too many dumbasses let WoW eat their lives and I know that so I shall just move on.

Re: 159 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-12-10 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
If you can't be ignored for 'half an hour' I'd say you're just being too sensitive to it.

But I side with you on hating it and being ignored for it generally - my boyfriend plays for over 12 hours a day. And hearing about it is boring.
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Re: 161

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-09 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm interested enough in psych, soc, anthro to want to analyze fictional characters and worlds, that's not my issue. My issue is the whole "I AM A PSYCH MAJOR" presentation of what is really an opinion.

I also just really disagree with the conclusions. Textbook criteria is only so valuable. I mean, I think they're much more likely to become disturbed assassins given their upbringing than incestuous brothers (especially given that their sexual orientation probably would prevent them from having an incestuous relationship in reality anyway).

Re: 161

(Anonymous) 2008-12-10 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
There have been cases of brother sibling incest where the men in question are otherwise straight. Not the I'm saying that wincest is the ONE TRU INTERPRETATION ZOMG!!1!1!!, just y'know, incest relationships are kind of a special case and the factors involved in starting an incestuous relationship or not are not necessarily going to be anything like the factors you would use to choose whether to get into a non-incestuous relationship with someone.

P.S. Disturbed!assassin!Winchester fic? Sounds awesome.

Re: 161

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
There have been cases of just about everything. The fact that it has happened somewhere, to someone, doesn't change anything.

And you're right, but that's because incest is usually abusive and coercive. I'm working on the premise that we're talking about incest between consenting adults. Generally speaking, a consenting relationship free from any pressure has you acting in accordance with your sexual orientation.

I'm thinking an AU where Dean shoots John Lennon.

Re: 161

(Anonymous) 2008-12-10 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Ha! Yes, good point, I probably shouldn't use that kind of example to make a point if I have no statistics on how likely that kind of thing actually is.

Though for the most part I don't think the actually probability of the Winchesters sleeping together matters that much to wincesters. I mean, if someone comes along and says "Here are some reasons why it's more plausible than it could be!" then they'll probably all peer over and go "Ooo! Fascinating!", but strict adherence to realism is not actually that common of a fannish trait.

When it comes to things like secret 161, I think it's more often a case of 'There are ways that this could be done somewhat realistically, and it would be really awesome to explore those paths too.' rather than 'PSYCHOLOGY SAYS THE WINCHESTERS ARE GAY FOR EACH OTHER STOP HOOKING THEM UP WITH GIRLS'. That the Winchesters are straight and like to sleep with girls that are unrelated to them is always (um, barring some incredibly implausible decisions on the part of TPTB) going to be a more plausible interpretation of canon, because that's what canon actually shows us. It might show us that those heterosexual relationships are not as significant as Sam and Dean's sibling relationship, but it definitely shows them as being more sexual than Sam and Dean's bond. (Of course, it doesn't help here that western culture tends to heavily conflate "most significant emotional relationship" with "sexual relationship". To the extent that you could argue that using western cultural coding they are showing us sexual subtext. But that's more because western ideals of romance are really screwed up than because of anything inherent to Sam and Dean's bond.)

Anyway, given that it's implausible already, why not make Sam/Dean one of the rare cases where two straight adult brothers have a consensual sexual relationship with each other but no other men? (Although actually, I think most wincesters interpret the boys as gay or bi. And how plausible that is is a whole other kettle of fish.)

I'm thinking an AU where Dean shoots John Lennon.
WELL I'D READ IT.

Re: 161

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, there's no reason not to. It's just that the pretense of this secret (and fannish attitudes like it) make me absolutely crazy.

105 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-12-10 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Because a lot of people I know think hotheaded characters are annoying, and when they find out what I ship -- a lot of times they go "Well I don't ship it because I think Character X is an annoying hothead..." etc. -- especially if they ship the other character in the pairing I like with someone else.

Kind of hard to tell these people that I'm naturally drawn towards those types of characters. *sigh*

Re: 105 OP

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
... Not really. "I like hotheaded characters." There, done.

It really isn't difficult. What do you think they're going to do, shun you forever because you have different tastes than they do?

Re: 105 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-12-10 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
No, but they have ignored my saying that and continued to bash the character I like, which coupled with my hotheadedness has not turned out well.

Re: 105 OP

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Which brings us back to "Why is it a secret if you've already told everybody?"

[identity profile] bullet4fob.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
psych students have low self-esteem and often feel inadequate. they try to cover their image issues with exaggerated emphasis on their credentials or intelligence. as a person who majored in psychology, i am qualified to say this.

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I'm halfway between laughing and crying BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD PSYCH STUDENTS SAYING SUCH THINGS ABOUT THEIR PEERS.

[identity profile] bullet4fob.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
.....OMG CANDY CANE SOOOO CUTE OMG.

and okay, i suppose i'll give you the benefit of the doubt but i find it hard to believe any other psych student could be quite as insightful as me.

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
You are adding a little laughter to a very difficult evening.

(Anonymous) 2008-12-10 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
lololol

(Anonymous) 2008-12-10 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
The more I see you hanging out in the comments here... Wow. You know you're kind of a bitch, right? You've even tried to bait me a couple times, but I've just ignored you. Which I'm going to go back to doing... now.

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
You know you're kind of a bitch, right?

How could I do this every day and not know?

139

[identity profile] evil-laugher.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
It's the film representation of Harvey Milk and the guy who killed him :(

Re: 139

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
Ohhhhhhh.

I agree completely then. That's just... ugh.