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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-07-10 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #4935 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4935 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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03. [SPOILERS for Hogwarts school of prayer and miracles]



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04. [SPOILERS for Dark]



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05. [SPOILERS for Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni]
[WARNING for discussion of eating disorders]



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06. [WARNING for discussion of suicide]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of pedophilia]



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08. [WARNING for discussion of underage noncon]




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09. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia, bullying]



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(Anonymous) 2020-07-11 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a bit annoyed people have to rehash this point every time, but...

The difference is most of these (let's put Orson Scott Card away. The work of his most people look at is the Ender's series and that's not recent) are not alive, do not have millions of twitter followers that are following and listen, have so many many young fans, getting a huge amount of money from sales of said work, and aren't still pushing all their shitty beliefs while the rest of the world is watching.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-11 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Roald Dahl's estate makes a fuck ton of money each year, his views are easily Google-able.

Matilda is very transphobic (the book has many allusions to Trunchball being a man, such as the scene when they put itching powder in her gym knickers and there's a sly line about what was really going on her in her knickers).

There are other hugely problematic elements in his books.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-11 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Wait so now we’re assuming a character is trans when Dahl never said it?

(Anonymous) 2020-07-11 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
“ such as the scene when they put itching powder in her gym knickers and there's a sly line about what was really going on her in her knickers).”

Are you serious? Here’s the line from the book.

“Well,” Hortensia said, “a few days later, during prayers, the Trunchbull suddenly started scratching herself like mad down below. A-ha, I said to myself. Here we go. She’s changed for gym already. It was pretty wonderful to be sitting there watching it all and knowing that I was the only person in the whole school who realised exactly what was going on inside the Trunchbull’s pants.“

The line about “what was going inside her pants” refers to the itching powder not a penis! For fucks sake.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-11 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
https://www.salon.com/2013/10/27/the_dangerous_transphobia_of_roald_dahls_matilda/

(Anonymous) 2020-07-11 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
And? Some think piece is supposed to change what I said?

(Anonymous) 2020-07-11 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Nonsense. Try reading the actual text.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-11 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
The only difference is finding out these people are assholes in Real Time as opposed to 20yrs later.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-11 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Well Anne Rice is still alive and making money from being a shit head, and her books are still selling - does she count or is JK the only problematic author in the world making money.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-11 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
It's a few things:
One, scope. JK Rowling has way more influence. A huge franchise. 14 million twitter followers.
Two, the types of influence. JK Rowling wrote a series for children/young adults.
Three, how the attitudes are expressed. JK Rowling remained under the radar until she ramped up her transphobic attitudes. Meanwhile, Rice has been considered pretty shitty for a while.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-11 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
OK fine jk Rowling is the only rich person ever to be bad.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-11 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
That's NOT what I'm saying. I'm saying that she's very dangerous because of her influence and that people are right to be mad. Using arguments like "other rich people are bad too" doesn't mean we should ignore what she's doing

(Anonymous) 2020-07-11 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Not even ignoring what she is doing - just pissed off at the whole mentality that if you like something (Harry Potter) while the author has done or is currently being problematic then therefore you're essentially supporting the author, even when you're against that author's views.