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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-07-16 05:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #4941 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4941 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-07-16 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
ha, i almost made a secret along these lines but i couldn't phrase it right to get across what i meant.

but basically: yeah. i enjoyed the show for the most part but fucking hell watching the treatment of all the women was like pulling teeth. they're really pretty, but aside from wei qing, who i adore, NONE of them got anything to do, were all tied up with their respective man, and all of them bar the one who literally removed herself from the narrative(and ms. not appearing in this series: baoshan sanren) were DEAD by the end of the show.

more of the male characters got to actually exist as individuals, even if they don't get as much as WWX, because he's the protag, while the ladies would get a few mins at most and then, boom: dead or just written out like nbd.

so i really do laugh at people saying they're 'so awesome'... because it's just not true. enjoy the sausage-fest drama for what it is but don't tell me ANY of these ladies were written well.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-17 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I think they were written fine, there just wasn't ENOUGH writing for them (and as someone else pointed out, the show added more than the novel did, and a lot of CDramas don't even have THAT much so by comparison...). I 100% agree though that they should have had bigger roles.

Also it's Wen Qing.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-17 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
if the show added more than the book then... jesus, to be quite frank. and i won't agree that they weren't worse than a lot of c-drama ladies, they're as bad as plenty others i've had problems with with the added issue of none of them being given any story relevance.

ah dammit, didn't realize i'd misspelt it twice before posting, always good.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-17 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
BL of all genres has no obligation to have great female characters. It's not a story about women, and it depicts another group rarely represented well in fiction. Direct your ire at things that feature female characters who according to the narrative should be as fleshed out as the men but aren't.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-17 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
nope! not when fans are insisting that the women are 'oh so amazing' when they're not. they were all shitty and i get to be annoyed about that. it being BL doesn't give it some magical shield against shitty, sexist writing.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-17 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
DA but if fans of male characters can come up with content based on absolutely nothing in canon, why can't fans of female characters?

Plus, in the show, even in the little we got of them, I appreciated the characters we saw. I wanted more, of course, but Wen Qing's pride in the face of everything against her and Yanli's more quiet determination were great.