[ SECRET POST #4945 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4945 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Queer Eye]


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[Criminal Minds]


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[Dunkirk (2017)]


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05.
[Murder by Numbers (game)]


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06.
[Fights Break Sphere, aka Battle Through the Heavens]


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[Locke & Key]

























Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 31 secrets from Secret Submission Post #708.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I saw a discourse on twitter that queer characters who "blend in" are also bad because apparently that's done to avoid discomforting the cishet audience. I don't know what's the right way to do this anymore.

[(Anonymous)]

See, I want more queer characters who blend in because I'm sick and tired of the stereotype that you can somehow identify someone who is queer because of how they talk/dress/act/whatever. Not only is it not true, it's tremendously othering because it makes it seem like we're some sort of separate species or something.

Give me businessman Stan who loves sports, always has his tie a little crooked, and can't cook for shit, but who shows up at a cocktail party with his male partner.

[(Anonymous)]

Businesswoman Mary who wears the latest fashion, paints her nails and occasionally meets up with her female friends from school, but also enjoys cooking for her partner of 10 years Sophia.

[(Anonymous)]

Gary, the pizza delivery guy, always quick with a joke, and with charm enough to warrant and extra few buck for every tip, and always ready to return home to his two true loves. Where he'll dig up he remote from under the couch and leave the sound low like he knew his lover liked it.
Nigel, on his laptop, typing like crazy as if he writes every instance of his life in those papers, and panels, as if he gives a part of his soul into every daily newsflash. Who'll notice despite his wildfire fingers every time the apartment door would open. He'll set down his laptop and greet his lovers with a kiss and a hug, a smile on his face and can talk for hours on end.
Mary, who works in a mill just outside of town. With dust still behind her ears and the clicks of her steel-toed boots, she rushes home each day with the excitement of all the new stories she'd gleaned from the other mill workers throughout the day. Bouncing and happy, although always the first to force them into bed.

[(Anonymous)]

Stan, who is still secretly jealous of his ex-boyfriend Nigel for doing so well without him.

[(Anonymous)]

Gary, who always checks if Stan has ordered in every couple of days. Knowing Stan isn't much of a cook through Nigel's careless comments of recognizing him as well as another number of people on Gary's general route through causal conversation at dinner. Gary double checks every order, just to make sure that even if it's just another tossup pizza of the week, at least Stan'll get the very best the pizzeria can offer, and he'll ensure that the perfect pizza will be delivered as Stan has come to expect from their establishment.

Although he'd never admit it- the brightest part of Gary's day is to make and deliver one particular customers order. Even if he's waved away at the door, his tip procured more as a lack of change than any actual payment. It is enough to make his day, just to know that a friend of Nigel's is well taken care of, even if perfecting a pizza is the least he can do.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT: Ehh, I don't know. We went through nearly a decade where comfortably passing LGB people were overrepresented and it seemed like all the gay men were businessman Stan, all the lesbian women were fashionably femme, and bi people were basically straight people who had the one-episode fling or conversation. Not surprisingly, this seemed to happen right alongside peak respectability politics from the HRC.

It's at a point where I'm feeling very thankful for Billy Porter and Dan Levy. FFS, not all of us present like businessman Stan, we do get clocked for it, and we have to deal with everything from microaggressions to assaults.

Not AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

While I totally get where you are coming from, I guess my point was I wanted to see well-written characters like that. Those characters you are talking about were mostly token stereotypical characters made by and for straight people and their enjoyment (hot lesbians!! Closeted gay men!!) - the same character written as a main character from a different approach or point of view is what I really would like to see. It's ok if they make jokes about being gay or whatever, but they are clearly more than a walking board screaming I AM QUEER. Which, well, I dont want to see.

[(Anonymous)]

Queer is not, has not, and will never be, an actual personality.

There are stereotypes, which is how the word 'gay' (initially/literally meaning happy), eventually became a slur against homosexuals, How the word 'lesbian' is taken from the Greek isle of Lesbos, where in ancient times the Amazons, a society built entirely of women, were believed to live.
To put it very simply, not all guys who talk with a limp wrist and a lisp are gay, and neither are the woman whom won't hesitate to finish a hardworking job, no matter how disgusting or physical it might be.

There's this concept called reality y'know. Where people are made up of more than just tropes and have facets upon facets of individuality that allow them to be and live who they are.
There is no such thing as 'blending in' a queer character because being queer is a preference, not a formula, not a personality, not the sole identity that defines any one person.