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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-07-27 04:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #4952 ]


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Musical fans...

(Anonymous) 2020-07-27 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
What do you consider a good musical and why? Are there any musicals you think are terrible?

Re: Musical fans...

(Anonymous) 2020-07-27 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Bad: Cats.
I love the Eliot poems. I love musicals in general. Blending the two just has never ever worked for me and I cannot comprehend its popularity.
Good: On the Town
Great songs, fun characters, zany plot, all 'round good fun, and a collapsing dinosaur. What's not to like?

Re: Musical fans...

(Anonymous) 2020-07-27 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
For Cats, I enjoy the music. (Of the original London or Broadway casts, of course, I won't even go near the movie.)

But as a musical, it's definitely an acquired taste.

Re: Musical fans...

(Anonymous) 2020-07-27 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
What's not to like?
um... "Come Up to My Place", the musical number where a cabbie sexually harasses a passenger and tries to coerce them into sex?

Re: Musical fans...

(Anonymous) 2020-07-28 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I like to see it as a gender-flipped version of what the show opens with - I mean, we have guys going out fully intending to seduce women while they're on leave. Having her pursue him instead (and he does end up being into it) is also a bit of a comeback to his initial sexism when he meets her ("What are you doing driving a cab- the war's over") and gives a lot of comedy in him being just as out of touch with sexuality as he is with modern NYC.
It's dated, sure, but having her take the "male" role in the situation doesn't seem quite to the level of "sexual harassment" to me - at least, it's no worse than Gaby pursuing Ivy by stalking her throughout NY just because he thought her picture was hot. Compared to a lot of male to female "courting" behaviours shown in romantic comedies and musicals, repeating an invite until he gives in to her in a comedic song ... I'd personally give it a pass.

What shouldn't get a pass is the treatment of Lucy. She's totally used by Hildy, and treated as a complete joke by the rest of the characters.
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Re: Musical fans...

[personal profile] 11thmirror 2020-07-28 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
I have pretty low standards, I think - if I'm having a nice time, it's good enough for me. I'll forgive a poor plot for good music, and I'll forgive at least mediocre music for an enjoyable plot. One thing I can't forgive?
When even my undiscerning ear can detect the autotune. I mean, they have to be going pretty heavy with it for me to notice, and within a few bars of Emma Watson first appearing as Belle, I could notice.

Re: Musical fans...

(Anonymous) 2020-07-28 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I have no idea what constitutes good and bad, but I know what I like and what I dislike.

I don't like Hair, Cats, The Book of Mormon (the songs were catchy but oh boy that plot), or Urinetown (just.... why)

I like.... basically every other musical I've seen, so Phantom of the Opera, Wicked, Les Miserables, Hamilton, Avenue Q, Lion King, Fiddler on the Roof, Grease, West Side Story, Anything Goes, Into the Woods, Sweeney Todd, Beetlejuice, Heathers, Mean Girls, Chicago...

Note, I count it as "seen" if I've seen it on stage (professionally or not), seen the movie, and/or listened to the soundtrack, so take this whole comment with a grain of salt.

Re: Musical fans...

(Anonymous) 2020-07-28 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
With me I love both 'good' and trashy musicals.
Like Shock Treatment isn't a good musical, but I liked the song 'Bitchin in the Kitchen' and the musical Tommy 'I'm Free'