[ SECRET POST #4952 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4952 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, the biggest problem with the Hobbit Trilogy is that PJ felt the need to make it a trilogy. Just imagine if he'd exercised a little bit of restraint and instead of shoehorning in Legolas or the stupid love triangle or Galadriel and Saruman, he just... told the story of The Hobbit, tweaked to give the dwarves actual personalities, and spent the money he saved by not stretching it out on decent special effects.

Seriously, I will never not hear the Mario jump sound effect in my head when Legolas is pointless hopping boulders in the last one.

[(Anonymous)]

I do wonder how much of that - making it a trilogy - was PJ and how much was the studio

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly? I wouldn't be surprised if he was pressured to make a trilogy. But, he was also flying pretty high at that point in his career. I'm pretty sure that if he had pushed back, the studio would have caved.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know how much was which, but I do know the studio pressured him to do it.

As other anon said, he had enough fame he could have pushed back, but evidently didn't (or not enough to be successful).

[(Anonymous)]

I don't mind the Saruman and Galadriel storyline at all because that's pretty much what they were doing off-stage during the time of the book. At the time JRRT wrote it, he didn't know it was going to tie into LOTR, which he hadn't written in yet. When he wrote LOTR he retconned the Necromancer into Sauron to make that connection stronger. It makes sense that the Council would be addressing that as a threat. If you want a stronger thematic connection to LOTR, that's not a bad way to do it.

The love triangle, the endless video-game CGI stunt crap, though...blegh. Legolas should have been a cameo at best. I don't even mind Tauriel in principle, since The Hobbit has no female characters at all and that's just not cool so it makes sense to introduce one or two. I like her, I felt she deserved better.

[(Anonymous)]

Tauriel could have just been a Wood-Elf tracker/guard who gets involved with the main plot because she's following the prisoners and then realizes that there's more going on there than she realized. That would have been fine. Introducing a female character for the sake of a love triangle was unnecessary.

I'm going to have to agree to disagree with you on the Galadriel and Saruman stuff though. I realize that it's semi-canonical backstory, but to me, it disrupted the main storyline in a way that felt more like padding than world-building. I would have preferred that they let the Hobbit stay a straight-forward adventure story on the surface with the foreshadowing in the background, instead of interrupting it for Council politics and some weird-ass romantic tension between Galadriel and Gandalf.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT 100% agreed on Tauriel. As a character she could have been great, but the love triangle was bullshit and pointless (especially in hindsight looking at Legolas's relationship with Gimli--if he'd watched even a close friend, much less a lover, go through that, he'd look at dwarves differently, don't you think?)

And god the Galadriel/Gandalf thing was weeeird.

[(Anonymous)]

Especially as Evangeline Lilly made them promise she wasn't going to be in a dumb love triangle, so they hid that part of the script from her until she was in contract.