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[ SECRET POST #4955 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4955 ⌋

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[Leverage]

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[Persona 4]

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[Daniel Sharman as The Weeping Monk - Cursed]

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[Gank Your Heart]

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[Honto Yajuu]

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There are few storylines I hate more than the "character proves their love is real by choosing their lover over the greater good" storylines. Yes, most people if they saw a gun to their partner's head would do what they had to to save their partner. But these storylines invariably imply that people who do choose the greater good just don't love their partner enough, and that's not the way it works.

This would be a low stakes version of that trope, but I hated a newer episode of Brooklyn Nine-Nine where Rosa's girlfriend came to the station during a crisis situation and said if Rosa didn't give her more attention their relationship was over (and Rosa left with her!!). Like, yes it sucks when you feel unappreciated by your partner, but IIRC they were trying to keep a hacker from erasing evidence in several ongoing criminal cases! That's Serious Business!

SA

Yes! I also hate how in procedurals, relationships never last, and the cop/fireman/etc. is always blamed for spending too much time at work. They are literally saving lives. In real life those type of people do often have lasting relationships with people who are either part of the same job themselves or at least understand that their partner has an important, time-consuming job and don't get angry at their partner for doing their job.

I was more thinking of things like the DS9 episode where Worf returns for Jadzia at the expense of the life of an important spy who would have saved hundreds of lives and he and Sisko both talk as if every romantic partner would do the same.

But I also hate that cops can't have lasting relationships on shows as well (always bugged me how and why Haley divorced Hotch even though before she knew his job and what it was, and we're supposed to think she did the right thing or at least not judge her).

da

There are people in emergency services jobs who have lasting relationships, but there are also a lot of people in those professions who don't.

It's not wrong for someone to realize they need more time with and attention from their partner than their partner can give. It's not wrong for someone to decide they can't deal with a partner who frequently cancels on them last-minute because they're needed for an emergency. It's not wrong for someone not to be able to deal with the baggage their partner brings home from the job. It's not wrong for someone to not be able to deal with the fear that their partner might well die or be critically injured in the line of duty. It's not wrong for people to have emotional responses to any of the aforementioned.

And if someone realizes they can't deal with the realities of their partner's profession, it's perfectly reasonable for them to break off the relationship. It frequently is the right thing to do for their own mental and emotional well being, and it is, in fact, wrong to judge them for it.

DA

This. Plus, in the case of Haley, they had the Fisher King calling Hotch's home and she had to go hide out with Jack at a motel. I mean, it's one thing to expect your husband to work long hours or be gone a lot, but when serial killers start being aware of where you live and potentially start putting your husband and your family in danger...I'm pretty sure most spouses aren't prepared for that, and I think it's perfectly understandable that Haley got spooked after that and was like, "Maybe you should cut back/find another job...".

The fact that Foyet was still able to find and murder her despite the fact she and Hotch had divorced by then would've been the ultimate proof she was right to be concerned about the effects of his job on him and the family. Even when she did up and leave, the danger still found her and her son.

I love this kind of thing for specific relationships. Like, if the story has gone out of its way to clearly convey that character A means everything to character B and is their top priority always, with zero competition, then seeing that level of extreme devotion acted upon can be really intense and rewarding. It's deeply personal and deeply selfish, and character B knows that--they just don't care.

What bugs me is when the two characters don't have that kind of extremely devoted relationship, but they still sacrifice the greater good in order to save the other person. Because I guess the writers think that's what good people do? Or something?

Actually, I kind of hate most tropes that basically operate on the premise that good people aren't pragmatic.

SA

It can make sense for a character, but I feel like even then a lot of time there is this assumption in the narrative that people in love just do that.

But I hate it most when it doesn't make sense. Like an example I mentioned above where Worf goes back for Jadzia and in the process gives up on the mission to rescue an important spy who would have saved a lot of lives. Worf is a character who absolutely would choose the greater good, the mission and duty, over rescuing his wife. And Jadzia for her part would totally understand and want him to do that. So I really, really hate that episode.

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