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⌈ Secret Post #708 ⌋

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Hmm, well I can't claim to know what the OP was thinking when they made that secret, but I do agree that condemnation of the entire fandom for those specific requests in the kink!meme is unfair. If they're just judging those requests, I would completely understand though.

I'm usually all for the 'THERE'S A BACK BUTTON PEOPLE'/'if you don't like it, don't read it' response. And I often defend a person's right to write something just for the porny factor or the LULZ, but in these particular circumstances, I just think that anyone who would be aware of the history wouldn't ask for those requests in that kind of meme, especially in such a blase/squeeful tone. Maybe that says more about the type of atmosphere anonymous kink memes can generate and how people will get carried away by certain behavioural norms in their little nook of fandom without understanding how it looks to those who don't participate than it does about the actual participants themselves. I honestly don't know if that's better or worse.

Although I did actually just seek out that Nanjing response after an anonymous comment said that the fic it prompted was more psychological than sexual. It did seem like the responding writer was aware of how sensitive the topic is and tried to do justice to it through their writing (whether or not they were successful and whether or not they would be better off exploring that in another venue is something that's up for debate, I think, and you probably know where I stand on that. ;) )

I think you're right, and I think one of the touchy things about Hetalia is that the usual assumption fandom operates under -- that fantasy and reality aren't the same, and that you're not writing about real people or advocating this kind of behavior in real life -- doesn't hold as much water, because these are real events that real people experienced, suffered, and died during, events whose ramifications are still being experienced today. It's sobering. I don't know if everyone on the meme means to sound so squeeful or if that's just sort of accepted kinkmeme talk and they don't realize the ramifications of what they're saying, but you're correct, it's troubling. Really, I think the important thing here is tone more than content: some stuff isn't meant for porning or squeeing purposes. It just isn't. It doesn't mean that the topic itself is taboo (which is what prompted my initial angrypost up there, because I hate being told that content itself is taboo), but it does mean you have to really think about what you're doing, and I can't ignore the fact that not apparently everyone on the kink meme is thinking about it. Or is thinking about it in any meaningful way beyond "hot!" And that's...definitely troubling.

(I should thank you for all your thoughtful responses, though -- you're giving me a lot of good things to think about.)

I should thank you for all your thoughtful responses, though -- you're giving me a lot of good things to think about

Ugh, I really have to leave the house because I'm really late to meet someone, but I just wanted to agree with this and say thank you for not assuming I'm bagging the whole fandom (um, it would be pretty hypocritical if I did since my Hetalia folder is the largest fanart collection I have on this computer...ahahaha >__> ) and taking the time out to respond so thoughtfully as well. It is interesting to think out why people have different standards for this fandom than others and it's more fun talking with someone who's not going to shut you down with a tl;dr so thanks also for not being dismissive. :D

How about an Anon-srs-meme for Hetalia, then? Where all of those ideas are explored in a setting where they can bee well-thought-out and written well, and we can all avoid stepping on anyone's toes about the word 'kink'?

also, I find it funny that my recaptcha was 'and teaches'.

That's not a bad idea at all. I think there might already be something like that on the main comm -- I've heard it mentioned -- but I'm not sure where exactly it's located, and I haven't seen it promoted all that heavily. If it doesn't already exist, though, it might not be a bad thing to create.

(And yeah, that's appropriate.)

Yeah, if it doesn't exist then it really needs to. I don't know about the rest of the fandom, but I'm definitely in Hetalia for the new takes on Historical events and the well thought out, moving fics. Sex comes to mind only where it fits in AFTER those first few things.

I wouldn't want to read it and it would probably still stir up wank, but I think it would be more easily defensible for those interested as fanfic that's not looking to sex up large-scale massacres.

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