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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-12-14 05:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #709 ]


⌈ Secret Post #709 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 17 pages, 416 secrets from Secret Submission Post #102.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
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Re: 117.

[identity profile] matitablu.livejournal.com 2008-12-15 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
(Although, I do occasionally wonder if state and provinces in other countries hate each other as much as the counties in Ireland do. Y'know, when I'm not too busy HATING OTHER COUNTIES AND OTHER COUNTRIES AND EVERYTHING OPSDIFHJTOIRJBDIFGNB AGGGGHHH!)

hey... ITALY. People (esp. in Tuscany in my experience, but it applies to the whole country) are still arguing about wars between cities in the middle ages.

Re: 117.

[identity profile] floriatosca.livejournal.com 2008-12-15 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, I miss so much being from the Pacific Northwest. We've only had our current geographic organization and associated identities for around 150 years and so haven't had time to organize any really juicy resentments between the residents of King and Whatcom counties, for example. It may be different for the Native Americans, but if so they aren't telling the rest of us. :)

Re: 117.

[identity profile] teh-faolkitty.livejournal.com 2008-12-15 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
lol, why do you think the English managed to get a foothold in Ireland in the first place? So much in-fighting that the different kingdoms had to bring in soldiers from abroad to help out and then the next thing we knew we were getting the crap kicked out of by the Brits and we all banded together again. Oh irony.

It is sadly, sadly hilarious though.

Re: 117.

[identity profile] teh-faolkitty.livejournal.com 2008-12-15 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
that's actually rather epic. I had friends who were Italian, but they were first gen Irish-Italian and were frankly more concerned about the troubles in the North than their Italian heritage, which always disappointed me a little. (Who else did I have to tell me these things?)

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[identity profile] matitablu.livejournal.com 2008-12-15 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol, as a native Italian living in Italy... I can tell you we take our campanilismo pretty seriously ;-) Well, most of the times it's just mutual mockery, but it can get nasty sometimes.

And ditto on the "nobody can complain about our country BUT US!". Although I think that's pretty common - no matter how critical you can be of your country, when you hear foreigners being judgmental or reducing your culture to steretypes it's hard not to become defensive.

Re: 117.

[identity profile] virgofolkie.livejournal.com 2008-12-16 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Really? Is Ravenna still refusing to ship Dante's remains back to Florence...?? Sheesh...

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[identity profile] matitablu.livejournal.com 2008-12-16 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it's not that they are refusing: Florence itself didn't officially take back its ban on Dante until... Last May.

Want more? The other Tuscan provinces love to hate on Pisa because back in the day the taxmen were Pisan. Hence the traditional saying "it's better to have a death in your household rather than a Pisan on your doorstep".
The Siena/Florence rivalry goes back to this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Montaperti) Livorno hates on Pisa much more than all the other cities, and I'm sure there are many other rivalries I could list if I were Tuscan :-D They are the best at this because they are probably the ones with the best eloquence in Italy, so I suppose they also like to bring this on so they can keep thinking of creative ways of insulting each other.

Us from Veneto can't genetically have that linguistic flair, but the rivalry between Venice and its mainland - which I suppose goes back to when Venice conquered the other cities in the region by warfare - lives on: the Venetians think we are all uneducated peasants, we think they can't drive (because they are used to boats ;-P) and that they are the vulgar ones. I could go further into detail but I think I've given enough :-D Then Spike Lee comes and tells us we need to get over arguing stuff that happened in World War II. He clearly doesn't have a clue: WW II was yesterday, lol.