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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-08-09 03:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #4965 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4965 ⌋

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Re: You should maybe read the series description.

[personal profile] philstar22 2020-08-09 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you serious? She completely bullied and controlled them. They were terrified of her. She had them completely cowed.

Re: You should maybe read the series description.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-09 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Not trolling, it’s been a while since I read the book, but I don’t remember her actually bullying them. It was more like she would shame or condescend them like she was their mother, but I don’t remember any overt harshness until the end.

Re: You should maybe read the series description.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-10 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Shaming is, in fact, a form of bullying.

Re: You should maybe read the series description.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-10 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Even if she somehow shamed and bullied them from the goodness in her nonexistent heart, or in a maternal way, she has no right to do so as a medical practitioner. She is not their mother, it's wrong for her to push her own values on those under her care, both morally and professionally, especially since they have no choice but to be under her 'care'.

Re: You should maybe read the series description.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-10 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, most of them were there voluntarily.

Re: You should maybe read the series description.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-11 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I'm curious about this, as I highly doubt this is factual. 'Cause it's not.

When you plead to be mentally unstable, or are committed of a crime that requires medical aide. You don't get to have an opinion on the matter at hand. Especially in times that the show/book was first created. Even if you did any doctor/official can say and write what they want, and those are the words accepted by the court, and by the public.

She brought her subject to suicide.

These are not just people playing the system, the majority of her patients are those who would need genuine help, of which they do not get, in fact they receive the opposite.
Them being ridiculed, demeaned, is all that it takes to break any one of them. Her purpose wasn't to heal, it was to hurt. 100% of the time.

You can voluntary wish and want and ask for a different psychiatrist even today, and I don't even mean in america, but that doesn't mean you'll get one, there was no other option for them if she didn't want there to be.

Re: You should maybe read the series description.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-12 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Most of the patients are there voluntarily and can leave when they want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehPcYibzUKc

Re: You should maybe read the series description.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-10 10:15 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think a lot of people grasp how manipulative and coercive the mental health industry is.

TLDR
I had a therapist who threatened to write in her notes that I was a self harmer (because I wouldn't get a blood test...this person was not an MD and had no license or background to theorize about the physical side of my issues) and said it would follow me around "in my file" no matter where I went. I discovered that, obviously in the US there is no central database any random health care professional can just look you up on. You have to actually give written permission for them to request the files.

But when I started going to a new mental health clinic, one of the first things they did was hand me a release form for my files from the other place (and they wanted to speak to my mother! I'm a legally competent adult who doesn't live with her...). I said no. They said, very nicely, "Oh, we'll still treat you but also,if you don't sign the paper, we can't treat you". my consent was borderline worthless and I was just going to have to accept that if I wanted treatment there.

Saving grace being 1) The old therapist was probably bluffing, 2)probably wasn't there anymore anyway. Once you're labeled "mentally ill" doctors evaluate everything through the lens of your narrative being untrustworthy. But once you've been declared a danger to yourself, you could lose all control over your healthcare. Plenty of people end up stuck in mental hospitals for years after voluntarily seeking help.

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(Anonymous) 2020-08-11 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt


Precisely!