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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-08-11 11:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #4967 ]


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(Anonymous) 2020-08-12 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. That trope and the "if you really loved them, you'll never ever get over them if they leave/die" trope are my very least favorite.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-12 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
"if you really loved them, you'll never ever get over them if they leave/die"

The forever wallowing in misery, living as a shadow of oneself because their love died, dumped them, or didn't reciprocate in the first place is such a big nope for me. It also goes against what I typically see in real life. Not that it *never* happens, but I've known plenty of people who were widowed at various ages, had a long-term relationship fall apart, or got dumped completely out of the blue by a partner of many, many years and while yes, there was some initial wallowing, they all eventually pulled themselves back together, moved on, and found other things to be happy about (and most of them remarried/got into other relationships). I guess some could have been faking being happy again, but probably not *all* of them.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-12 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
And in the case of being widowed, who on earth would want someone they loved to be miserable forever? It’s just a very selfish way to look at love and also very hurtful to imply to someone who has lost a loved one that if they ever move on then they never really loved the person in the first place.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-12 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'd love to see someone do that and for there to be some big negative consequences (like all the people who were going to die instead of the loved one actually do and the loved one is super angry about it).

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2020-08-12 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
Fable 3 and Alpha Protocol. Also Infamous, sort of—there’s an additional twist to it.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-12 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you!
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-08-12 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
it really depends on the themes of the novel to me, because for some books that's the point.

but for books where that's not the point, yeah I wish doing the right thing wasn't taken as insufficient love as a moral defect (I actually do think you can have a person want that kind of fuck the world love however, and yes it means two people aren't right for each other. I guess I want a better distinction).

(Anonymous) 2020-08-12 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
That made me hate Weathering With You so freaking much (that, and the climate change denial vibes, too, but mostly that)

(Anonymous) 2020-08-12 09:28 am (UTC)(link)
I'm no Shinkai apologist but I way more had the vibe that the story was partly about being able to mythologise and romanticise the now times - that it's coming, no matter what, and maybe just a little of it could still be beautiful, even admist the destruction and upheaval?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-12 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
I completely agree, honestly, characters who end up in those storylines should not be the main characters by any means, as far as I am concerned.
Sacrificing the world for someone they love is incredibly selfish and unforgivable, imo. Especially when a 'chosen one' storyline is brought into the mix. I just can't stand it at all.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-12 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
I hate this especially when the partner everything gets sacrificed for would 100 % NOT be okay with that. I don't see much future for a relationship if the oh-so-beloved ends up resenting you for sacrificing half of humanity etc.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-12 11:29 am (UTC)(link)
So many people complain endlessly about this trope when it happens with het couples while they stan Homura/Madoka and Haruka/"A world without Haruka isn't worth saving" Michiru :\

(Anonymous) 2020-08-12 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this is a thing about fandom I've always found weird. People will hate on codependent het relationships at the drop of a hat for being unhealthy...and then the same people will eat that shit up when it's in a slash fic.

I was in the Sherlock fandom during the hiatus after S2, and I knew multiple people who hated the part in Twilight New Moon where Bella falls into a depression and does nothing for months because Edward leaves her, but were absolutely obsessed with fics where John became suicidal after Sherlock's death and was still barely getting by after two whole years.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-20 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think people give it a pass. I've been a part of the Madoka fandom and a lot of people had a huge problem with Homura's character in the Rebellion movie. Even in the movie it's not framed as a good thing since Homura is portrayed as evil and even Madoka is disturbed. Ending with Homura knowing that someday Madoka will fight against her to restore the universe to a sense of normality.

A lot of Madoka fandom will say that, for them, the movie ended just after the fight with Homura's witch form.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-12 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
this one depends entirely on the couple and setting for me. in some cases i'd love it because i could see it working for the pair and the horribly selfish/messy nature of it would have wonderfully messy emotional ramifications for them, and with others i'd never be able to see the characters being okay with their other half doing that for them so it would never hit right.

so, really depends on the context of the story for me.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-12 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Strongly seconding this.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-20 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh. This is what bothered me about Life is Strange fandom. They conveniently ignore all the innocent deaths sacrificing Arcadia bay entails... like Kate and Chloe's mom just for the sake of their ship. Even though it's heavily implied that everywhere they go the death tornado will follow them and destroy towns. Besides the sacrifice Chloe ending was one of the most beautiful endings that introduced me to Spanish Sahara.