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⌈ Secret Post #710 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 14 pages, 330 secrets from Secret Submission Post #102.
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I know exactly how you feel. This has been my problem all my life, and every time I come even close to expressing my political opinion, I'm just stomped on by everyone.

I think it's really sad that people feel they can't share their opinions, but I hope the OP wasn't talking about discussions of politics in fandom. Because, seriously, that is not the place to be talking about it. I remember reading comments on the Pushing Daisies community that related the show to Obama and McCain, and honestly, it just seems stupid and likely to start arguments if you do that.

That said, open, respectful political discussion is important, and it's sad that it's so rare. Even though we disagree politically, you have just as much right to express your opinion and not be attacked.

Unless, you know, you said something like "(Insert Politician) is an idiot and so are their supporters" without any evidence or real criticism to back it up. Then, I don't care what party you're a member of, get ready for a shit storm.

Also, I love Obama, but your icon is made of win. It makes me laugh.

I never bring up politics in fandom. I'm mostly referring to those times back in high school when random people would come up to me and go, "OMG WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR [insert name of unpopular candidate here]?" and they'd keep berating me until I answered something, then they wouldn't shut up about it. There are other times too, when I've been in political discussions, and I've been the only one who had the different opinion, so when I bring it up after listening to the other side for a very long time, I'm just stomped on for having a different opinion.

Hopefully the OP didn't bring this up in a random fandom forum out of the blue, because that would be kind of stupid. If this was already part of a politics discussion, though, and they were stomped on, then that's not cool, and I completely sympathize with them. :\

I agree, though, about the "[Politician] is stupid and so are their supporters" thing. By calling the supporters of an opinion "stupid" is ignorant and intolerant. By jumping to conclusions about members of a party is very intolerant too. Like the person who replied to my comment, for example... He or she automatically assumed that I'm homophobic simply because I said that I sympathized with the OP of the secret (which mentioned nothing about homosexuality). I'm not seeing a connection. :|

Okay I think I'm done rambling. All in all, people should respect other people's opinions and not jump to conclusions. This applies to both sides. :|

Yeah, I think it's a human condition that in politics a lot of people are just bullies and will treat anyone different like crap. I see that in my own family all the time.

And that's really stupid that the anonymous commenter chose to use your original empathetic comment as a jumping-off point for political accusations. There are a hell of a lot more reasons one would be conservative, rather than just gay rights. For god's sake, look at the log cabin Republicans.

But, yes, I thought I would reply with my show of solidarity that people who crudely persecute others for differing opinions are stupid.

maybe because being a slash fan-- as you are-- and backing a party that seeks to marginalize-- or at least restrict the civil rights of-- gays and lesbians is just mind boggling to some people. it's like you're saying: it's okay to get off on gay sex, but actual gays don't deserve rights. maybe that's not what you're all about and maybe that's not what your support of the gop is all about, but-- at a glance-- it makes you look like a big ole douche.

oh, and that icon makes you look racist.

WTF. It's a pun. How is it racist at all?

And by assuming that all Republicans are homophobic, you are no better. I, myself, am in full support of gay rights and gay marriage, and yet I am a registered Republican. Most Republicans, actually, do support gay rights. There are sources that like to slant the stories so that it looks like most Republicans are against gay rights, but this is not so.

May I ask how the icon makes me look racist? First off, I did not make it. Second of all, I thought it was funny because it brought back a memory of Pokemon, a show I once loved as a kid, and "Barack" sounds very much like "Brock".

I'm sorry, but I'm really hurt now that I would be labeled as racist. :\ Just because I have a black man in my icon, I'm automatically racist? I'm not seeing the connection here.

Also, may I ask how you know that I'm a slash fan? If you are on my f-list or something, I would appreciate it if you would reveal yourself. I don't like it when friends pretend to be friends and then hate me behind my back, and would rather have all opinions toward me directed out in the open rather than people hiding behind an anonymous name. Perhaps I'm jumping to conclusions, but you couldn't have simply looked at my comment and known I was a slash fan. Please just tell me if you know me. I would appreciate it. :\

Edited 2008-12-16 03:31 (UTC)

I bet they looked at your profile and saw it.

That's what I'm guessing. I'm just uber-paranoid. :|

And your post makes you sound like big ole douche. Funny how that works out.

Try not to look so stupid by making loud assumptions next time.

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