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⌈ Secret Post #4972 ⌋

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Comments

Re: To you, what is necessary for a same-sex relationship to be considered canon?

[(Anonymous)]

One of the things I tend to apply is the question "would a m/f relationship be considered canon/a romantic relationship with what we are given". If yes, I don't see why a same sex relationship should be held to such a much higher standard.

Re: To you, what is necessary for a same-sex relationship to be considered canon?

[(Anonymous)]

I think that's a good rule! There have been so many times where m/m or f/f characters have acted in a way that would ABSOLUTELY be considered romantic if it was between m/f characters, but people insisted they were "just friends" because it was same sex, and I've always found that so frustrating.

Re: To you, what is necessary for a same-sex relationship to be considered canon?

[(Anonymous)]

However, there are tons of m/f relationships that I didn't think were canon, only to then look at the fandom and official statements from writers that acted as if they were unambiguously canon and it was just a fact that anyone could tell clear as day from the text. So I have no idea what this "if it were m/f would it be obvious as canon" test is supposed to entail.

Re: To you, what is necessary for a same-sex relationship to be considered canon?

[(Anonymous)]

This is how I feel about things like... Phoenix and Edgeworth. If their arcs were written about a man and a woman, no one would question it. That's just an example.

Re: To you, what is necessary for a same-sex relationship to be considered canon?

[(Anonymous)]

Well see, I think the fact that nobody would question it if it were a man and a woman is a problem with how we see m/f. I would absolutely not consider Phoenix/Edgeworth canon if one of them were a woman. I'd consider it heavily and deliberately teased at... which is exactly the same as I consider it in the actual canon... but I would not consider it a canon ship. I think people need to stop thinking every relationship between a man and woman is a canon romance just because it has the potential to be. And to most of fandom, that potential is anything from them making eye contact once to them having a relationship like Phoenix and Edgeworth. Shit's annoying.

Re: To you, what is necessary for a same-sex relationship to be considered canon?

[(Anonymous)]

OP of thread

I'm not familiar with Phoenix/Edgeworth, but I get what you're saying. A m/f pairing seeming to be interested in each other doesn't automatically make them a couple if they're not officially a couple, but I think using the same standards (in a logical way) for m/m or f/f makes sense.

Like, if an m/f pair interacts in a way that most of the audience agrees that yeah, clearly they like each other, and there's a good chance they're going to get together eventually, and a m/m or f/f pair has the same types of interactions, then it should be reasonable to also think they like each other and at least wonder (because with the way things are now, with a same sex pair, it's not almost a given that if they act like they like each other, they'll probably eventually become a couple the way it is with m/f characters) if they're going to get together eventually.

People shouldn't automatically jump to saying "they're canon!" just because they seem to be romantically interested in each other (and no one should do that with het ships, either), but acknowledge that they might become canon eventually, because they clearly like each other. It's annoying if they act just like the het ships and people say "oh, they're such good friends!" because they're the same sex.