[ SECRET POST #4975 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4975 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Inspired by #3

[(Anonymous)]

I think it’s kind of impossible to have a utopia disguised as a dystopia in the same way that dystopias are usually disguised as utopias - I.e. the society itself is told/convinced that it’s a utopia when it’s very much not.

Because if the message within a society is that it’s a dystopia when it’s actually a utopia, then the society is lying to itself/its people and basically massive-scale gaslighting them, which is not really something an actual utopia can do and still be considered a utopia. It’s kind of a catch-22.

But kaijinscendre makes a good point, that you can have a utopia that outsiders perceive as a dystopia--probably usually as a way for the text to discuss racism, xenophobia, and cultural chauvinism.

Re: Inspired by #3

[(Anonymous)]

That's a really good point!

I think what I had in mind is a society that might look to the outside observer, or even to the reader, like it was totally dysfunctional, but that actually functioned really adequately and provided for the needs of its citizens. Not a utopian society that outsiders are prevented from seeing, like Wakanda, but a utopian society that outsiders don't recognize is utopian, even though they can see it.

Re: Inspired by #3

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I think it’s kind of impossible to have a utopia disguised as a dystopia in the same way that dystopias are usually disguised as utopias - I.e. the society itself is told/convinced that it’s a utopia when it’s very much not.

Because if the message within a society is that it’s a dystopia when it’s actually a utopia, then the society is lying to itself/its people and basically massive-scale gaslighting them, which is not really something an actual utopia can do and still be considered a utopia. It’s kind of a catch-22.

...okay, this makes me really want to read a story around this concept now (if there aren't any that already touch on such a concept, that is) :D. That'd be a rather fascinating thing to explore.