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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-08-22 03:31 pm

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Questions/Advice Thread

(Anonymous) 2020-08-22 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
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Re: Questions/Advice Thread

(Anonymous) 2020-08-22 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
So I have found myself back into fan fiction, the last time was when Torchwood aired so it's been quite a long time. Now I'm firmly in Untamed/Modao Zushi and I have a few questions.

Is there an ELI5 for Alpha/Beta/Omega dynamics? Where did it start from?

For the explicit stories, there is thigh fucking which ok I get, but it's a new concept for me. When did that start appearing?

Re: Questions/Advice Thread

(Anonymous) 2020-08-22 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry anon, what is EL15?

Re: Questions/Advice Thread

(Anonymous) 2020-08-22 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Explain like I'm 5 (which I just realize isn't the correct context when asking sex questions...)

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(Anonymous) 2020-08-22 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT Hahaha oh good lord, okay I get the expression but in conjunction with a question about A/B/O lolol. So wrong ;)

Well I'll try explaining it like you're 18 (or the age of consent where you are) XD XD XD

I think I read once that A/B/O fics existed before Supernatural, but the general consensus is that it really hit big in the notoriously dark Supernatural kink memes back in the day. The usual dynamics are that there are Alphas who are domineering, in charge, etc, and Omegas who are essentially subs to the Alphas. There are usually heats and Omegas usually go into a Pon Farr-like state of must-fuck-now where they need an Alpha.

Betas tend to be everyone else who is not an Alpha or an Omega.

Re: Questions/Advice Thread

(Anonymous) 2020-08-22 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah thank you! Thank you for helping to clear that up!

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Re: Questions/Advice Thread

(Anonymous) 2020-08-22 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Explain Like I'm Five, meaning an easy to understand explanation that even a five year old would get.

Re: Questions/Advice Thread

(Anonymous) 2020-08-22 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
https://fanlore.org/wiki/Alpha/Beta/Omega

Re: Questions/Advice Thread

(Anonymous) 2020-08-22 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Vintage furry kink complete with instinct, misunderstood wolf pack dynamics, and knotting, but with the fur shaved off and applied to the same dudes fandom said were secretly fucking off camera.

Basically.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah this pretty much sums it up perfectly. Bald furries plus mpreg.

Re: Questions/Advice Thread

(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 11:18 am (UTC)(link)
A/B/O's origin is a J2 kink meme prompt that got filled. I guess the kinks landed with a lot of people because it took of in a huge way.

Someone already gave you the breakdown of alphas, betas, and omegas. Heat sex is a major feature of a/b/o. Omegas have self-lubricating butts and alphas have very large dicks and their dicks have "knots" that expand during sex, eventually locking them together with the omega. Generally high volumes of come are involved.

Often a/b/o social dynamics can play out like extreme versions of real world social dynamics, with omegas being treated like second class citizens or property by society, and especially by alphas. But not all a/b/o fics go this route. Also, some fics kink on the "big, powerful, controlling, jealous, animalistic alpha & small, gentle, submissive omega" dynamic, while others deconstruct it or subvert it.

Some a/b/o is more animalistic and puts more emphasis on the so-called animalistic elements of alphas and omegas. But a lot of a/b/o isn't particularly animalistic, besides heats and knots.

The most notable thing about a/b/o, really, is that it's extremely customizable. Everybody writes their version of a/b/o slightly differently. I think alphas, omegas, and heats are probably the only elements that an a/b/o fic has to have to embody the trope, and how the author chooses to depict alphas, omegas, and heats is largely up to them.

I read a lot (A LOT) of a/b/o fic in the Sherock fandom, and a lot of it was really good. I've since moved on to other fandoms, and haven't really been enjoying the a/b/o in these other fandoms much. So I would say a/b/o varies a lot from fic to fic, and also it can vary quite a bit from fandom to fandom, too.

Re: Questions/Advice Thread

(Anonymous) 2020-08-24 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
You may never see this but I wanted to tell you that you are AWESOME for this concise explanation. I'd give you an upvote, or a kudos, but thank you SO much!

Re: Questions/Advice Thread

(Anonymous) 2020-08-22 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm thinking of buying a rug. (We have hardwood floors and in the winter it's bloody cold.)

I'm trying to shop in a better way, and I found a rug made from recycled cotton from a retailer that seem to be making concerted effort to push in a more sustainable direction. Only problem is it's white and we have a dog. How much of a mistake is it to buy this??

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(Anonymous) 2020-08-22 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
It will look great for about a week. Then the regret sets in.

I learned that lesson with cream carpet. :(

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(Anonymous) 2020-08-22 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh... I wouldn't. Even without a dog, a white rug isn't going to look pristine for very long and if it's in an area that gets traffic, you might end up with a darker brownish-grayish path trodden into it over time.

Would dyeing it be an option?

Re: Questions/Advice Thread

(Anonymous) 2020-08-22 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Big mistake, unless you're either planning to dye it or your dog is also white and doesn't make messes. If ecological mindfulness/sustainability is your goal, you might want to see if you have a local/regional natural fibre mill (wool, cotton, flax, whatever)and go from there.

Writing question

(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
How can you improve your dialogue writing skills? I thought about going to a coffee shop or something and writing down people's conversations but that seems vaguely creepy?

Re: Writing question

(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
It does sound a bit creepy.

I think you'd be better off studying dialogue you've enjoyed reading rather than real conversations. In fiction we do away with a lot of the boring parts of everyday conversation.

Re: Writing question

(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
I felt like a major creeper just thinking about it!

Thanks nonny, yes I think i'm going to do that instead.

Re: Writing question

(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Online dialogue writing workshop, 3rd October, here: https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/gippsland-writers-network-online-workshop-dialogue-tickets-114613863150?aff=eemailordconf&utm_campaign=order_confirm&ref=eemailordconf&utm_medium=email&utm_source=eventbrite&utm_term=viewevent

If you join the Gippsland Writers' Network you get it cheap rate.

Re: Writing question

(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you thank you thank you!

Re: Writing question

(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
I should have emphasised that it's 2pm -4pm Australian Eastern Standard Time, so it might some ghastly hour of the night for you - but worth considering, perhaps.

Re: Writing question

(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Well, for starters you could read decent quality stories and pay attention to how it's done, as opposed to reading it for pleasure. Good dialogue just flows along and you hardly notice the mechanics of it because you're caught up in the story. But you can always slow down, reread and pay attention to ONLY the mechanics. It's a big switch in one's mindset, but really helpful because you're looking at how the fic is constructed.

I don't think recording real life conversations will be of much help because in fiction, dialogue has to serve a purpose. You don't have paragraphs of pointless chit chat in fiction, because that's dull as dishwaster and your audience will be bored. Written dialogue needs to move the story forward, either by aiding in plot development or characterization.

Re: Writing question

(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks nonny, this is actually very helpful advice.

Re: Writing question

(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 10:21 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's creepy as long as you are discreet. Artists sketch people in public settings all the time.