[ SECRET POST #4981 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4981 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

it was always like this, unfortunately. count how many BNF orbiters there were in the 90s. it's the same in the 20s, they're just twitch followers now. how many "fandom friends" do you talk to years later? is it more than two? is it more than one? fandom hasn't changed in that respect.

maybe you didn't notice it when you were a kid?

that said, friendships are totally possible to make and have last. my point is just that it's not a problem of "modern" fandom. there's never been some faraway time where it was simple and easy.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, and I wanted to add that - in addition - what OP says is generally true of internet-mediated friendships across the board, so that's another sense in which it's not a fandom thing

There are Internet people I consider genuine friends, but there are a lot more Internet people I consider people I really like a lot and would try to actively be friends with if we knew each other IRL but the nature of internet-only social interaction (and my own social habits and anxieties) make that difficult to say online

[(Anonymous)]

I semi-disagree? In my days on LJ, there were a dozen or so people who I was fandom friends with. We would talk to each other about all sorts of things, not just fandom stuff. If one of us was musing on something, several others would comment on their post, regardless of what the thing was. And if they were having a hard time and made a personal post, almost everyone in the circle would reply in some kind of support.

Yeah, most of us drifted away over time, but for years we were consistent in our engagement with each other as people.

On tumblr, the engagement is far more limited and far more purely fannish. There's no sense of "You're a friend to me, so I'm going to respond to what you're expressing because that's what friends do with each other."

[(Anonymous)]

DA, but it's because the commenting feature on LJ let you have conversations. Tumblr's designed more for Pronouncement!Reaction! interactions, and since every reaction blasts that part of the post back into public view, nothing personal ever really develops. You might have better luck on a different platform?

[(Anonymous)]

Tumblr's not built for group conversations, but it does have a good basic chat feature for one-on-one interaction. In the old days of LJ, I spent most of my time on AIM with select friends.

[(Anonymous)]

And how many people on LJ were "far more limited and far more purely fannish" for you? Like, lots of people never found that friend group on LJ either. I was one of the ones that did, but I'd say friends made up about 5% of my interactions and random fan chatter was 95% of it.

It's the same for me on Tumblr and Discord.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. Like, in my current fandom, I've got a group of friends who are actually friends in the "we talk about stuff outside of fandom (including RL), have voice chats and play online games together, roleplay together, have our own private Discord, etc." sense, but they're a tiny sliver of the interactions I have in the fandom as a whole. Most of it is just chattering with like-minded people on Twitter or Tumblr or AO3, nothing deeper than that. I see some fanart/fic I like, I comment on it, have a brief conversation with the creator, and that's that.