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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-09-07 04:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #4994 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4994 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-09-07 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I like problematic shit a lot, but people enjoying bleak outcomes tells me how privileged they are overall that they don't have to constantly BE in a place of bleak outcomes in their real life. I want the good, optimistic endings because my life sure ain't getting better and I need that good ol' escapism or I'll break because hoplessness is so fucking constant, and people who can wallow in it for writing tend to have a lot of hope in their own life from my experiences.

If I wanted hopeless, I can unplug and look at real life where I live under a wannabe dictator who wants me dead for being a gay, disabled pagan woman who's also liberal.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-07 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
people enjoying bleak outcomes tells me how privileged they are overall that they don't have to constantly BE in a place of bleak outcomes in their real life

Or maybe they get a release from seeing people in even more bleak and hopeless outcomes than their own.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-07 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, you can have both optimistic and pessimistic stories exist so that people can choose from a variety of stories instead of only having just the one kind.

Also sometimes people write stories to vent things out and aren't obliged to give a happy ending to anyone if they don't feel like writing it :P

(Anonymous) 2020-09-08 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
No one's saying that you can't have both, just don't be fucking surprised when most people in the world of 2020 don't want bleak and hopeless while it's being shoved down our throats constantly.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-08 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
You can have stories that aren't all fluffy kittens and rainbows without them being "bleak and hopeless," you know.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-08 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
I've loved bleak and hopeless stories more than ever since 2016, thank you very much indeed. Give me that delicious commiseration.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-08 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
who's forcing you?

(Anonymous) 2020-09-08 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Bold of you to assume that just because I like bleak stories means I don't have a lot of issues in my own life. Hahahaha no... I mean some of us get catharsis putting our favorite characters through pain because we identify with the struggle.

OP

(Anonymous) 2020-09-08 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
Hi. I'm sorry that you've faced hardship and I understand this is why a lot of people crave lightness and sweetness; what I don't understand is why it's acceptable to declare that the only way anyone is allowed to work through depression or their own failings in life in a way that gives them healthy distance from it. Nothing about what I said in my secret invalidates your feelings or what you seek fiction for, but thank you for invalidating my own.

For what it's worth, I am a gay woman in the deep south who was raised under fanatical religion and very traumatized by it. I don't owe you that explanation for why I should be allowed to write realism in my relationships not always working out. I'm truly not intending to belittle your feelings but this is sort of exactly what I'm talking about when I say I think people paint with too broad of a "dark" brush onto anything that isn't perfect. Maybe it's me but I think ascribing "hopelessness" to an already rocky ship not getting a conventional happy ending with wedding bells etc is somewhat overstating things.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2020-09-08 08:58 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Sending you my love OP! <333

(Anonymous) 2020-09-08 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I truly am sorry that you can't parse the difference between imagination and reality... But I honestly think you should look at some of the genuinely good recs for this "bleak" type of scenario. If only because that bleakness is almost always overcome, and depending on which fic you read the same bleakness you shy away from isn't as bad as it initially looks.
That you seem to dismiss such a thing so easily is definitely worrisome by my standards. Rather than deny people the fiction which might tackle more problematic issues that run rampant in our world. I suggest you seek a therapist if you can, if not, call/message a prevention line hotline, referenced below:

http://www.pleaselive.org/hotlines/


Stay safe.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-08 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Always nice to have proof that the people who demand sunshine and rainbows are in fact enormous assholes.