[ SECRET POST #4996 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4996 ⌋

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[fscom]

04. https://i.imgur.com/0OMJYN2.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I agree.

[atalantapendrag]

Co-signed.

[11thmirror]

Yep.

[(Anonymous)]

"Minority" is kind of a weird word. And I assume from the context of the secret that we're talking in American terms here. We use "minority" to signpost "disadvantaged racial group" but strictly speaking all it means is that a group isn't the dominant racial group. I don't think the literal fact of an ethnic group being a minority is, in and of itself, that meaningful, especially in an American context where one of the fundamental dynamics of race is collapsing all kinds of ethnicities into a homogeneous "white". Strictly speaking, Ukrainian-Americans and Portuguese-Americans are minorities; it's just that they're not really disadvantaged and they're broadly seen as white so it's not really useful or meaningful to talk about them that way.

It's much more useful and meaningful to talk about the specific social context of different groups than to draw a dividing line where every group other than people of white Northern European descent can be considered a minority. And the actual social context of Jewish people in America is complex. On the one hand, there are clearly some contexts where Jewishness differentiates Jewish people from white America, and part of that is the historical, unrelenting, and evil context of anti-Semitism. On the other hand, there are clearly and objectively many times, many contexts, many ways in which huge swaths of the Jewish population in America do fold neatly into the American conception of whiteness, and while that is always a tenuous and complicated thing, it does happen and I don't think there's any point denying it.

Also, frankly, everyone forgets about every mass shooting within a week at this point. And also, I don't really care about casting or whatever, I mostly think it doesn't matter unless the race is integral to the character.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm gonna be real here

this comment sounds an awful lot like you trying to justify the removal of Jewish characters from any narrative that isn't specifically about Jewishness, because you think that the only valid criterion for someone "counting" as a minority or deserving representation is whether or not you, personally, feel sorry for them in some way, and if you don't then you think it is just fine to erase any and all racism, bigotry, and/or violence they are experiencing as a direct result of being part of that group, and to have them removed from narratives in which they previously appeared

[(Anonymous)]

this comment sounds an awful lot like you trying to justify the removal of Jewish characters from any narrative that isn't specifically about Jewishness,

What I said about casting is not specific to Jews or Jewishness, it's a general opinion about casting across the board. So, no.

The rest of this, I just disagree with totally, so, again, no.

[(Anonymous)]

"Do you have to go through airport-level security..."

I don't go to church anymore, but considering Christchurch and the regular targeting of mosques, the Sikh temple shooting from a few years ago and Charleston and the long history of Black churches being destroyed, I'd guess more than a few people do.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think that takes away from their point, though - it's not a thing that white Christians generally have to do.

[(Anonymous)]

Not in Christian countries at least. Outside of those, I wouldn't be so sure.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly.

[redstapler]

The way this has played out in the casting choices in The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel-- a show I adore-- gets more and more uncomfortable with each season they air.

[(Anonymous)]

I think I'd be fine with it if they used it as a way to put in minorities within the Jewish community (for everyone else Ashkenazi aka eastern European Jews are the majority).

So like, this person isn't an Ashkenazi Jew anymore because they're Mizrahi. Or an Indian Jew. Or Beta Israeli.

But yeah, just taking it to be like "oh they're white so we can just get rid of the Jewish part" is wrong.

[meadowphoenix]

for what it's worth, I have not seen a single marginalized group that this hasn't been done with. there should have been uproar for Big Hero 6, and there was very little. everything about the way new mutants was cast was questionable. so.......don't worry you're actually not alone.