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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-12-20 05:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #715 ]


⌈ Secret Post #715 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 21 pages, 512 secrets from Secret Submission Post #103.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 4 - repeat ], [ 1 - personal attack ], [ 1 - doing it wrong ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ].
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(Anonymous) 2008-12-20 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously, I obviously don't agree with the whole genocide thing, but I really wish that side had been given more of a voice. I think if so many readers weren't just in it for the wish fulfillment of "I wish I one day got a magic letter in the mail!" they wouldn't identify so damn strongly with the muggleborns and some kind of case could be made on behalf of the more conservative end of Potterverse politics. Maybe if you've grown up in this world, you don't want a bunch of people coming in and not having the same amount of understanding right away and maybe never developing the same kind of instincts but just demanding equal power right away anyway? How can you NOT think these people might threaten your world? It's not like they don't have one of their own already.

I hate one-dimensional portrayals of evil! It's like when people think about the Holocaust as some unprecedented evil so great and inexplicable that it has to be a one-time thing and can't possibly be understood from a Nazi perspective - it's just ASKING for the same thing to happen again! If you refuse to understand how their perspective develops you'll never be able to prevent the same trends.

Yeah, OP is probably a troll. BUT THIS NEEDS SAYING ANYWAY.

Dorky comment is dorky.

Re: 148

[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-12-20 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not like muggle-borns suddenly appeared, you know. They'd been there for at least a thousand years (and most likely arriving continuously since magic appeared); the wizarding world should be used to them.

And I don't think the books have a one-dimensional portrayal of evil. It's not a complicated story, but I think what one crazy man driven by self-interest and power-hunger could turn otherwise sane people into was done rather well.

Re: 148

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Um, ONE CRAZY MAN WHO CORRUPTS EVERYONE is pretty one dimensional, regardless of how well it's done. We never see the internal logic.

Re: 148

[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I thought the Malfoy family illustrated how an otherwise loving family could also be fooled by grand promises and self-delusion, and turn them onto a way to ruthless killing. Also when Draco was forced to face reality and saw what those twisted ideals really meant.

Voldemort went crazy from fear of death, and created some twisted ideals to gather followers of his cause. We saw at least three broken families that were major parts of the narrative because of it; I don't really think it's one-dimensional.

The internal logic isn't complicated, but we do see it. People fall for it in real life all the time; even those that should know better.

Re: 148

(Anonymous) 2008-12-21 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Hitler-Germany is one-dimensional? The Germans already had a lot of pent-up frustration after WWI; it's almost exactly the same for the HP Pureblood faction.

Re: 148

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Except not, because all we see from the pureblood faction is that they're snooty, rich and racist.

Re: 148

[identity profile] saya22.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 11:43 am (UTC)(link)
Are you forgetting the Weasleys? Because they're pureblood, but kind and, well, poor.

Re: 148

(Anonymous) 2008-12-20 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Wat.

Re: 148

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
LOL FOREVER

You really thought this was appropriate to post? Next time pare your answer down to "I hate oversimplified portrayals of evil" to avoid making yourself look dumb,

Re: 148

(Anonymous) 2008-12-21 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
We're in FS - everything's appropriate to post. And this is fandom, where people are supposed to post weird and lengthy obsessive replies. I don't actually think the argument sounded dumb. OK, now I've defended it, and I can say my main rxn is still LOL FOREVER LONG ANONYMOUS PRO-DE COMMENT WTF. WTF.

Re: 148

(Anonymous) 2008-12-21 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
OP of comment showed understanding of human nature and why history repeats itself. Not dumb, just not something people are comfortable hearing. You, on the other hand, are the one coming off as bitching for the sake of bitching.

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[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
History repeats itself because we insist (INSIST) on identifying with book characters and siding with the side who isn't commiting genocide?

Oh ok.

"It's important not to Other the culprits when things like this happen" is a good point. The way the OP said it was absolutely not.

Re: 148

(Anonymous) 2008-12-21 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
Not op of this comment but lol forever.

Do you tire of being an ass to everyone? Seriously, you can't seem to shut the fuck up. Even when people prove you wrong.

Please...stop posting on the internet and go back to picking on children in elementary school, who are more likely to grow up to be better people then you in every way :/

In before LOL ANON CAN'T HAVE AN OPINION BECAUSE HE/SHE IS ANON. Some people don't have LJ's and read F!S. DUR HUR IMAGINE THAT.

Re: 148

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 08:54 am (UTC)(link)
I regularly shut the fuck when people prove me wrong. Feel free to go backlog for a couple of days.

Please, stop pretending like you actually know strangers on the internet.

Also? I don't pick on anons for being anon. Keep trying, bb.