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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-09-19 04:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #5006 ]


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[personal profile] bookblather 2020-09-19 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Yo, I'm with you on that. I'm writing a semi-take on the six wives and I'm trying very hard to do Anne justice (also big mad about Kateryn Howard but that's a different rant). We'll see if I manage it.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-19 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Good luck! I saw someone describe it as workplace harassment where your boss can have you executed, and I felt that was a good shorthand for the amount of pressure she was under.
(fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck her dad, what a dick)
(Poor K Howard, she really got a raw deal too, I want to time travel and punch people for the honour of Anne and Kate)
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[personal profile] bookblather 2020-09-19 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! Yeah, her dad is not less of a dick in this book.

Hey, you wanna join the Travelling Kateryn Howard Protection Society? We reeducate people on her life, sometimes with fists! Also someday we will dig up and beat up Henry VIII.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2020-09-19 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Omg do not get me started on Catherine Howard. We don't know her exact age but we know enough that she was basically still a CHILD (barely out of her childhood by modern standards) and then you get shit like The Tudors portraying her as some flighty slut when most teenage girls wouldn't have been attracted to the fat oozing puss that was Henry VIII by that point in his life, so of course her head may have been turned. Her only crime was perhaps being too naive. Another young woman who became the victim of the methods of the men surrounding her.
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[personal profile] bookblather 2020-09-19 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
FUCKING RIGHT AND. AAAAAAND. She was a poorly educated child. She had no idea how the court worked, she had no idea how a queen should behave, she had absolutely no idea how these things worked. How could she possibly have known what to do? The poor kid deserved and deserves so much better.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2020-09-19 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I will die on the hill that Henry VIII is a garbage king and people in the UK, especially England are only obsessed with him because of his wives. He was the same as any weak-ass man led by his dick and couldn't handle the fact that maybe he was an unattractive fat mess (and maybe the lack of living kids/sons was mostly down to his powdery sperm) so used his social position of power to lord it over those in a weaker position, such as his wives. Without my history hat on, I'm not even gonna allow "those were the times" in this instance because fuck Henry VIII. I'm glad his most successful heir was a woman.

The fact she apparently faced her execution with such relative composure has always made me feel that the world doesn't deserve to judge women like Catherine Howard.
Edited 2020-09-19 23:47 (UTC)
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[personal profile] bookblather 2020-09-19 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I am so fucking with you. You wanna meet up in Windsor? I got a shovel if you can bring a jackhammer.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2020-09-19 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha well, once we're allowed to travel longer distances again without feeling bad! Although I feel a bit like he did already kinda get what he deserved by not getting the grand tomb he planned and being "lost" for a few years? Either way fuck him still.
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[personal profile] bookblather 2020-09-19 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Legitimate. He is the genuine worst and he can fucking suck it.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
I will die on the hill that Henry VIII is a garbage king and people in the UK, especially England are only obsessed with him because of his wives.

This is not an unusual opinion in England? His wives were mostly awesome, he was garbage, the sky is blue.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2020-09-20 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
I think in general circles you're right. But in academic circles (in my experience) there's a certain demographic unwilling to let go of their overall Tudor worship, including accepting that Henry VIII is a shit and not worth any of our attention but his wives are more interesting.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who went to school in the UK, my main memory of learning anything to do with Henry VIII was mostly focused on why he started the Church of England and a very summarized version of who his wives were.
Even though a lot of people agree that he was shit, but I get sad sometimes at how much they left out when teaching those things in school (I strongly suspect that it's to do with focusing on the 'religion' side of it, but that could just be how my school was and speculation on my part).

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
I think this post pretty much sums up everything perfectly :D. Well said.
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[personal profile] chamonix 2020-09-20 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
Another Brit here chiming in that I hate that overgorwn manchild and his murderous tantrums more every time I learn something new about him. The only good thing that ever came out of him was his daughter, and I'm inclined to believe that was mostly Anne anyway.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
Katherine Howard in Six is portrayed as exactly that child who was taken advantage of by a series of predatory men and ultimately broken by it.