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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-12-22 05:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #717 ]


⌈ Secret Post #717 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 105, 110, 113, 130, 147, 155, 158, 162

[identity profile] mollywobbles867.livejournal.com 2008-12-22 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
105. Voldy always had the choice not to be a psychotic bastard. Also, he had the choice at the end to show remorse for his actions (which would have killed him, but his soul would be whole), but he refused. Basically, Voldy made a lot of failtastic choices.

Re: 105

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2008-12-22 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
195: The lady at the orphanage says he was strange even as a baby. It kind of implies that there was something wrong from minute one. Again, where is the choice? And let's not forget that this is a series that has 11-year-olds make a decision that will effect them for the rest of their life. Who's the same person at 20 that they were at 11? Hell, who's the same at 15 or 16?

Re: 105

[identity profile] mollywobbles867.livejournal.com 2008-12-23 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I think the "strange even as a baby" comment was referring to the accidental magic he did as a child, not his mental state.

And well, it's a series about a hero's journey, so yeah, Harry had to face bigger decisions than most kids his age. I'm really kind of confused as to what decision he had to make at age 11 that affected him the rest of his life, other than things that go with the hero's journey (ie, saving the day stuff).

P.S. I love your icon. Neville ♥

Re: 105

[identity profile] stray-mikeneko.livejournal.com 2008-12-23 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
When the orphanage lady said that Tom was a strange baby, she was referring to the fact that he never cried. Which really is an early sign of sociopathy, iirc. His backstory makes it seem as though he became a sociopath through a combination of genetic factors and being raised in an understaffed orphanage that just didn't have the resources to give him the individualized attention that he needed. Which makes sense to me psychologically, but I don't know why JKR presents it that way, and actually describes Voldemort as a clinical sociopath, while still insisting that he had a "choice." People who are sociopaths from infancy don't choose to be that way--something just goes wrong, and there's no cure for it.

I think the "decision" in question was the choice of which House to enter. It's weird that Jo makes such a big deal out of Harry having chosen Gryffindor over Slytherin, considering that Hagrid had been telling Harry all about the awesomeness of Gryffindor and the evil of Slytherin--Dumbledore was a Gryffindor, and so were Harry's parents, whereas all bad wizards come from Slytherin, including the guy who killed Harry's parents. How could Harry not prefer Gryffindor after hearing that? I don't see how his choice was any different from James picking Gryffindor or Draco picking Slytherin because their parents encouraged them to.

Re: 105

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2008-12-23 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you, stray_mikeneko, you've summed it up, and much better than I could have. And, yes, the choice I was talking about was the House thing. Given the way the House choices are treated like some reflection on your personality, having 11-year-olds pick them is just... wrong.

And, yeah, with everyone telling Harry how Slytherins were pretty much the scum of the Earth, of course he's gonna choose, and specifically says, "Not Slytherin".

Re: 105, 110, 113, 130, 147, 155, 158, 162

(Anonymous) 2008-12-23 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
You can't choose not to be psychotic or a bastard or feel remorse (not show it--feel it for his actions. None of those things are choices. He showed who/what he was, he didn't choose it.