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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-09-21 06:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #5008 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5008 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-09-21 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I'm sorry but Darth Vader & Son?? Darth Vader & Friends?!? What the fuck kind of bedtime story it that? Yay! Imma murder you and commit genocide! Wheee- fun times!

(Anonymous) 2020-09-21 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait till you hear about fairy tales lol

(Anonymous) 2020-09-21 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
True, but most fairy tales are purposefully horrible as a means to strike fear and force a lesson. Over the years they have been retold and curbed to be less traumatic, my issue has less to do with the subject matter and more to do with the possible morals a bedtime story about Darth Vader hopes to accomplish. He's a morally evil character and his relationship with his son is especially unfortunate.
I get that they chose Star Wars and make these books more for the adult who buys them than the kids they're reading them to, but even taking from Star Wars itself has me scratching my head. The original and recent movies are not rated G, they are not meant to be enjoyed by toddlers according to the rating system and subject manner, so using movies a child technically shouldn't be exposed to and writing a childrens book about the antagonist of such films is completely nonsensical.
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2020-09-22 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
I always assumed that "Darth Vader and Son" was a parody aimed at adults and not for children at all, even incidentally. There's no point to it at all if you don't know the movies.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed on the parody thing, but what's that line about how you should be careful about satire that's too subtle because it ends up looking like you're just creating content of the thing you're satirizing?

which is to say I've seen these books on sale at Buy Buy Baby on the same shelves as the 5-minute bedtime stories
https://www.buybuybaby.com/store/product/darth-vader-son-book/1042550846

Note the last bullet point in the description, Recommended for infants to toddlers
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2020-09-22 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh boy. Yes, that is unfortunately true.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a couple of these, and no, most are not for children - they wouldn't get the joke. They do have ones for children (the feelings one, for instance, is pretty good and my toddler likes it).

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
the cutesey-fication of Darth Vader/Sith/Empire stuff to Sell More Toys™ is my absolute least favorite aspect of star wars merchandising.

(Leia wears the ROTJ jabba's palace outfit in one of those books for a Vader-as-sitcom-dad joke about "no daughter of mine is leaving the house in that outfit!" Like, just-- what the fuuuuck, man. What the fuuuuuck.)

(Anonymous) 2020-09-21 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. I checked out a few of those geeky board books from the library because my friend was going to have a baby and I wanted to give her a book basket for her shower, but I didn't like any of them. In the end, I just filled the basket with books I'd liked when I was a little kid and added a gift card to Barnes and Noble.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Kid books are an ART oh my gosh. I have such opinions after three years working in early childhood education. (Sandra Boynton is a goddamn GENIUS and I will hear nothing against her ever.)

Books that don't feel good to read 5 times in a row are absolute trash for this demographic: adults reading to kids.
These things should be created with the utmost care. Kiddos can watch cartoons or play with toys all their own, but creators need to consider those of us trapped in the hell of trying to say the D-grade tongue twister that is AY-Bee-Cee Three-PEE-OH. And the ART!? Who thought this was worth it?