[ SECRET POST #5008 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5008 ⌋

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[fscom]

10. https://i.imgur.com/7e3qb0J.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

My sense is that it's now more or less evenly divided between Twitter, Tumblr and Discord, yeah

[silverr]

There are also some well-modded single-fandom subreddits.

[(Anonymous)]

People did go to twitter and discord, but I'm not sure if they completely left tumblr. As for if the former two are good for fandom. IMO, no.

Twitter I'd be willing to try in a pinch, but I have tried discord. It was for a single pairing, from a single show, pretty tiny fandom and not everyone was on there. And it still drove me nuts within weeks. It depends way too much on real-time interaction from what I can tell. Either you're glued to your phone and laptop, or you miss out on most of it. I don't live in the US, and I have a job, so I *would* miss out on most of it. Twitter has that problem too, less so than discord, but more than tumblr or LJ. Again, all my experience and my opinion.

Around the time of the NSFW ban there were some names of new platforms bandied about. Pillowfort was the one I heard most and I joined it. It could be good, but there's not enough activity to really judge.

[(Anonymous)]

Discord seems like it's functionally just IRC with an easier-to-use frontend. Which, fair enough, some people like IRC. I've never really figured out how to get into it (as a social platform, I mean, not technologically). Twitter, I think you just have to accept that you're going to miss a bunch of stuff, but I think you can accept that and still get a lot of value out of the platform.

WRT Pillowfort and stuff like that, it always seems to me like those things always fail because people just aren't going to move away from old platforms unless the new platform offers something substantially better, in terms of the basic capabilities it provides. So just cloning old platforms doesn't work.

[(Anonymous)]

WRT Pillowfort and stuff like that, it always seems to me like those things always fail because people just aren't going to move away from old platforms unless the new platform offers something substantially better, in terms of the basic capabilities it provides. So just cloning old platforms doesn't work.

I agree. Also, this makes me think of that Folding Ideas yt video about why other video platforms fail to replace yt. Have you seen it?

[(Anonymous)]

I used to love IRC, but I like interacting with fandom (and everyone) on my own time/terms now, and being able to see art, fic. etc. without having to be online at a certain time.

There's a discord for my fandom, Pillowfort, Twitter, and Tumblr, but I mainly go to a few Tumblrs in particular that are known for their meta rather than reading my dash, tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

I've sort of moved to pillowfort and Dreamwidth, but I keep coming back to Tumblr and Deviantart because the fandoms I'm in are the most active there. I was toying with the idea of going to Instagram for fan art stuff since I really don't want to go on to twitter.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm interested in the migration patterns of fandoms too. My main fandom is doll fandom and it feels like everyone went from message boards to Facebook Groups and then to Instagram.

[(Anonymous)]

From what I'm seeing, a lot of people use tumblr merely for crossposting now and do most of their fandoming on twitter.

[(Anonymous)]

I still have my Tumblr, but just for an aesthetic blog. When it comes to fandom I first went twitter but then came here (and to Reddit) and now I plan to maybe go to Fanexus when it becomes public.

Fandom in Tumblr didn't die, but for me, it became a little joyless.:/

[(Anonymous)]

FFXV fandom seemed to move over to twitter (hence why i finally bit the bullet and made an account).

At first, fandom creators would post their works on both sites but it's been a few months since I've seen any of my artist friends do that. It doesn't seem to be worth the effort anymore.

[epicurean]

You are kinda right in that tumblr is not entirely dead. I loggedi into mine a bit ago and there where.... probably.... 2 people still reblogging things. I also got two posts removed due to the bot thinking it was porn (it really wasn't) so I can see why people just up and left. Since everyone had already a twitter everyone moved.

Discord has also become a place for fandom gathering as well and I've seen people moving there due to the need for places where to find other fans that share the same interests while not worrying about the haters. Kinda like lj comms.

But yes, tumblr is still alive, or rather, it's a zombie of what it used to be at least for fandom spaces. The platform imo was not meant to hold fandom (twitter as well) like say discord, where things can be properly modded.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, there was a large migration. My tumblr dashboard is pretty dead these days.

That said, there's still a lot of people on tumblr. I have a friend who got into supernatural fairly late who does a lot on there, and it's still the place for things like gifsets. I just lost a lot of my circle, I guess.

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[(Anonymous)]

I rarely get anything NSFW on my dashboard. Most of the upset was the combination of things along with the algorithm labeling what seemed like everything but nudity as nudity (I had a non-colored sketch that got labeled because of the paper color) and the bots. The bots were a major source of frustration immediately after the change, and it seems like I still have to block and report them quite a bit.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm in a small fandom. It's on Discord, Tumblr, and to a limited extent, Dreamwidth. I like Discord because it's live chat. But at the same time there's a lot of toxicity there. Tumblr is good but not for discussion. Mostly reblogging stuff. I doubt my fandom is on reddit. Pillowfort is moribund from what I can see. It's like Tumblr and you can post nsfw art there but other than that there's not much to recommend it.

[(Anonymous)]

tbh tumblr is still pretty darn active, obviously nothing like in its heyday, but I can always find a bunch of different people posting pretty much constantly and that works for me. Imo tumblr is kind of a much more chill fandom environment now that many people have dropped it. I'm just quietly vibing over there reblogging gifsets, lol. Twitter is honestly exhausting for fandom, I've taken a break from it and I feel so much better. And I can't quite get in to the concept of discord as a fandom hub even though it seems to make a lot of sense. It doesn't really seem to function in the same way as old IRC chatrooms because it's kind of this static discussion hub, rather than an area where the messages vanish once you leave the room, (that's how they worked, right?), and I kind of prefer the latter. I always end up lurking in discord servers... I guess that's just my own fault, then :p

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't looked at Twitter and tbh, I have no interest in looking there for fandom. I can see why younger fans would like it, though?

I ended up on Discord because my fandom "group", but tbh at this point we're just an online social group who happens to be focused around one piece of media but we have people on there who've never *seen* said media so ... yeah. I mainly loved it for a fandom space that wasn't full of teenagers telling me I was too old for fandom or doing it wrong.

Tumblr is still fairly active, at least for those who I follow. Not like it's heydey, but it also feels more chill.

[(Anonymous)]

Most of my fandom friends have moved to twitter. I'm not as active in fandom anymore, partly because I'm not really in the mood for it, and partly because (while it's fine as social media) I don't like twitter as a place for fandom at all.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's time we add Youtube to that list. Fanvids have always been there, of course, and since Every Frame a Painting and Lindsay Ellis, and Blindwave and the Normies, there are a lot of video essays and reaction videos. Plus all kinds of analysis, shitting-on, fandom history and so on. There might not be a lot of discussion, but there is a lot of fan-made content on there.

[(Anonymous)]

YouTube has a fundamentally different model of engagement norms, though. Basically there are three different big models for what a fandom social media site should look like:

1) A bunch of different people have their own distinctive spaces and they collectively participate in fandom through stuff they make in their own spaces (Tumblr and Livejournal)

2) Everyone participates constantly in one big ball of constantly happening content, and personal carved-out spaces either do not exist or are extremely secondary (Twitter and Discord)

3) A few people have personal spaces that they use to create and share content, and everyone else watches or experiences this content and then interacts back to the original creator (Youtube, and I guess, like, fanzines)

[(Anonymous)]

Tumblr keep blocking my tumblr simply because it has the word 'slash' in the description. I haven't even posted anything on it so I can't see any other reason. It's so painfully 1990s that I'm kinda glad tumblr is dying tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

My main fandom is very small, and is mainly active on tumblr. Someone set up a discord earlier this year and it's quite active and fun, although there are only about 30 people on it (as I said, small fandom) and it's really nice, but I would hate to be on one for a fandom that was any larger bc it would be impossible to keep up with. We also have a DW but that hasn't been used very much recently.

I could never use twitter for fandom stuff bc it just feels too public. It's such a "mainstream" space that it feels weird being openly fandomy on there (for me, anyway).

Personally, I like different platforms for different things. Discord is good for silly chat and throwing ideas around. DW is better for properly thought-out meta and discussion. Tumblr is good for visual stuff and, to an extent, meta (although DW is better for that).

[(Anonymous)]

It feels like there isn't one good option to move to. It makes moving hard because there's no single place a majority seem to agree on. Youtube is having the same problem (although Youtube is drastically more abusive.)

Tell you what though, the porn ban has done good things for porny artists with a Patreon.

ALSO, can I just SAY. As an adult who knows how much of a networking tool Twitter is... when I see fan stuff on there it makes me cringe so hard my brain turns into a blackhole. Especially the porn involving real actors. Holy shit. I can't even begin to imagine exposing my fannishness in such a public space, ESPECIALLY not one where employers actively hunt your ass down. No thank you. Oh god. Eugh.

[icecheetah]

When the porn ban happened... I actually didn't notice much difference in the people I was following aside from my queerplatonic crush entirely leaving the platform (we're still in contact in other places). There was also a general downtick in activity but the people I paid attention to are still there.
But... I am ace and meh about sex so I wasn't exactly following people for porn anyway.