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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-09-21 06:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #5008 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5008 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2020-09-21 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope the upcoming adaptation of Rebecca deviates from the book. The book was very atmospheric, and I give the author props for that. But I found the story…bad? It’s definitely a product of its time. The “Villainous whore victimizes her rich and powerful husband” narrative was so obvious and hollow from the get-go that I fully believed the novel would subvert a lot of those tropes in the end, and Maximilian would turn out to be the main threat/”bad guy” of the novel, but…nope! Rebecca was a villainous whore who terrorized her rich and powerful husband, and his naive lamb of a second wife is an angel and that’s that. Basically.

So yeah, I will cheer in delight if the movie rejects the book’s last quarter and does it’s own thing. Preferable something a little less “Madonna/Whore Paint By Numbers!” (I do like that the narrator is less of a naive lamb by the end, and I’d love to see the adaptation focus more heavily on that arc.)

S!B - Everyone who likes the novel is obviously going to cry foul, and I don’t really blame them. When I like a property, I want to see it adapted faithfully. I just don’t like this property. But maybe I could like it, with some heavy tweaking of the last quarter.

SPOILERS FOR REBECCA IN THE ABOVE COMMENT, SORRY!!!

(Anonymous) 2020-09-21 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
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Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Haven't read the book, but I have some ideas for plot twists.
- Turns out that the guy is a bad guy and the lead girl defeats him in the end
- Which leads to another twist, she frees the spirit
- Alternative, she finds out that the first wife is alive, just living in the walls. They both team up and get rid of the guy. They donate his money to charity, but save some to start up a secret agency where they free spirits of scorned women in bad marriages or rescue women from shady marriages in their era

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Alternative, she finds out that the first wife is alive, just living in the walls. They both team up and get rid of the guy. They donate his money to charity, but save some to start up a secret agency where they free spirits of scorned women in bad marriages or rescue women from shady marriages in their era

Rewriting both Rebecca and Jane Eyre in one swoop, adding a supernatural element, and running with it. I'm on board. :D

In all seriousness, though, if the adaptation just changed the outlook on Maximilian, made Rebecca slightly more morally ambiguous, and then had Maximilian die in the house fire at the end, leaving the narrator wealthy widowed, and far more world savvy and firmly in command of herself than when the novel began, I'd probably love it.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Aw thank you! :D Thought those things might cheer you up. Ooo besides Jane Eyre, I read Wide Sargasso Sea in high school, which sorta loosely inspired this.
I'll skip this film mainly because I don't like the lead actor in it. Otherwise, I'll take your word for that ending.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
It's a Gothic novel. It has fucked up people in it. It's not like other gender dynamics don't exist in other Gothic novels

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
My objection to it is not that it's fucked up. How are you getting that from my comment? Cuz it's not there.

My objection to it is that I find it boring, obvious, and painfully basic. As I said, quite clearly, in my comment.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
And the man she married turning out to be the bad guy the main heroine has to stop/get away from would have been less basic, boring and predictable? The 1600s called, they want their plot from Bluebeard back.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I thought Rebecca was about lesbians. Granted, I read it on tumblr, but it was a serious post, not a "im a soft baby lesbian and everything is about lesbians i don't make the rules uwu" post.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
There is a character who many people argue is queer-coded. She was definitely obsessed with the deceased Rebecca, whether you want to read it as lesbionic is entirely up to the viewer.

I would not say the novel was about lesbians, though. You can frame the novel in those terms, and I'm sure some lit-crit does. To me, saying Rebecca is about lesbians is only slightly more accurate than saying Sherlock Holmes is about gays.

An instance where I'd be inclined to at least partially agree that a novel is "about queerness" is Brideshead Revisited. Rebecca, IMO, is not in that same ballpark.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
But Max was never portrayed as good. In fact DDM intended him to be a bit of an arse. The plot centres around a love story but the book itself is not intended to be one, it's intended to be a low key psychological thriller.

DDM used to get frustrated that people would assume it was a romance just because the author was a woman.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm female and a feminist and IMO she doesn't have much of a story there. It's a horrible romance and a weak af psychological thriller. I was not "thrilled." There was no depth to the story.

And "a bit of an arse" really doesn't cut it for me. He was a bit more than "a bit of an arse," really.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
It's clear du maurier intended it to be a thriller. But there was no mystery to the story. It's one of the most pin-straight narratives I've ever read. Reading it felt like

Me: ooh, what really happened?
Book: think of the most obvious answer, the one you thought of immediately without even trying.
Me: okay.
Book: that's what happened.
Me: but... Okay, but what's the catch, what else are you-
Book: nothing. No catch. That is exactly what happened.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2020-09-22 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
You're right and you should say it. The novel acts like it's this mysterious thriller but there's no mystery. I knew the whole story forty pages in! The answer to every question was exactly the most obvious answer, the answer too obvious to BE an answer because 'what a boring story that would be.'