[ SECRET POST #5027 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5027 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's frankly silly to pretend that (in general) the social context and identity of straight men that are into lesbians is identical to the social context of women in slash fandom. It's just silly. They aren't the same social phenomenon.

I don't even necessarily disagree with the point you're making but the comparison just doesn't work IMO.

[(Anonymous)]

Can you explain why, if you don't mind? Honest question.

[(Anonymous)]

I can try! I hope it doesn't sound too incomprehensible lol

I think what I'm trying to say is that looking at lesbian pornography on the one hand, and writing and reading smutty fanfiction on the other - these are activities that exist in a social context, not in a vacuum. When you consider the activities in a vacuum, yes, they're both different kinds of porno, and not necessarily reflective of anything about the identity of the person watching. But we can also look at how those activities exist in society, and the characteristics of the social groups that do them.

The social group "men who watch lesbian pornography" is very broad, because watching lesbian pornography is fairly close to just being normative for men (at least in the United States). So generally, we would expect the people in that group to be fairly reflective of men in society in general. On the other hand, the group of people who take part in online fandom and read and write smutty fanfiction, especially smutty slash fanfiction, is very much a self-selected subcultural group. In that regard, it's totally different from men who watch lesbian pornography. So it's completely plausible that a generalization could be true of the group of women who take part in slash fandom, and not be true of the group of men who watch lesbian porn, even if watching lesbian porn and reading smutty fanfic are fundamentally similar activities.

Of course, these are still generalizations! Even if it's true that - in general - women in slash fandom are more likely to be LGBT+, that's a generalization, not something that's true of every individual person in fandom, and we shouldn't make assumptions about individual peoples' sexuality based on generalizations. I just think the comparison OP was making doesn't really work, in a way that's kinda interesting to me. (Also I think that there are in fact differences between mainstream pornography and smutty fic regardless of the genders of the people involved - f/f fic and mainstream lesbian pornography are pretty far apart - but that's not really germane to the point).

[philstar22]

Girls have sexuality too. Maybe it isn't always the same, but it often is. I started reading slash because I found men hot. I started reading femslash because I found women hot. I read non-smutty fics for the character dynamics as well. But I never read slash because of my bisexuality.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, I definitely agree with that.